Haye will use Wlad's size against him and knock him out...

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I think Wlad fights like a tall guy, but honestly he doesn't possess some of the weapons that tall guys need to fight opponents that are able to make themselves small targets and are great students of the game.

    And Wlad's speed, while fast for today's heavyweights who are often overweight as you could see by Arreola and McCline's showing on HBO, and the relatively recent Peter massacre by Vitali, and the fat lethargic Gomez coming in without movement and straight up, is nothing Haye hasn't seen before at cruiserweight.
     
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  2. TommyV

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    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83JFy14bwCM[/url]

    Skip to 5:10 and I think you'll find your answer.
     
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  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    I would think so.
     
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  4. BITCH ASS

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    Haye is not as limited as Wlad in the effectiveness of his offensive arsenal. Haye doesn't need to just throw straight right hands as he will often find that right hooks will be incredibly effective to Wladmir's exposed body...and eventually his head if not right away.

    However, what Klitschko does well is he keeps distances from his opponents, but still Haye COULD potentially make Wlad look clumsy, just like Louis did to Max Baer and Primo Carnera.
     
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  5. FibreOptic

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    The only real way I see Haye winning is if Wladimir makes a mistake and Haye is able to capitalize on it.
     
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  6. BITCH ASS

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    I wonder what the look on Wlad's face will be when he realizes how hard it is to hit Haye.
     
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  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    That seems like the obvious, but, I think Haye has the advantages over Wlad in terms of athletic ability. I can see why people think Haye will lose this fight because of his chin and size. But, Haye is a lot more than that. The guy can actually fight.
     
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  8. BITCH ASS

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    If you wanna get an impression of how this fight might go down, watch Louis vs B Baer, with the exception that Wlad will probably be much less aggressive and attempt to establish more distance.

    Either way, when and if Wlad decides to attack, you'll see his punches sail right over Haye's head.
     
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  9. Russkie

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    Enzo's reach is 74.5", Haye's 78", Wlad's 81"

    So if Haye can come over the top of Enzo's jab, will he be in reach to do it so readily versus Wlad?

     
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  10. TommyV

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    Enzo stepped in with the jab a long way though, adding the extra distance, Wlad tends to pump the jab I don't see him stepping in to it much. I feel he can counter Wlad's jab if given the opportunity.
     
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  11. BITCH ASS

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    Bump
     
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  12. Ponysmallhorse

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    It's not so hard to hit haye as you try to put here.
    As for big clumsy guys from past" It's obvious that while time passes the big guys getting stronger. Its an evolution. 2000k years ago average Roman was 145-150cm. And now average man is 175.
     
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  13. Ponysmallhorse

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    Even Lennox said that he never saw such big guy with so much speed.
    And what elements does Wlad lacks to fight a small guys? He is better in this than 99% of tall guys. Beating shorty's is that what he does best.
     
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  14. marting

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    For Haye to win this fight I think he should stay low and fight with a bit of caution for a few rounds. Klitschko's stamina is always an issue and Haye will find more opportunities if he can survive a few rounds.

    If he comes out guns ablazing he might get lucky but he tends to punch wide and that would be a disaster against Klitschko. He needs to rely solely on straight shots. Those inside shots Sanders landed were mostly right down the pipe.

    For Klitschko the gameplan is jab, slide laterally, jab, slide, jab. But I think the devastating punch against a right handed bomber like Haye is that nasty short hook that almost looks like a jab that Klitschko has recently developed. Haye is vulnerable to hooks.
     
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  15. Ponysmallhorse

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    First of all haye is no Luis. If he try go to the body he will be killed. And no one before made much of effect by going to the wlads body. I can't see haye ducking the long left hook which goes right after jab.
     
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