Which heavyweight Champ had the most overated power?

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  1. klompton

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  2. Mendoza

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    Most overated power. Although he could hit, I would say Frazier.
     
  3. Bokaj

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    When people state that Foreman was the most powerful puncher of all time I feel he gets a bit overrated. He's up there, but I wouldn't hands down say he's the most powerful. Who knows, he might not even been top 5. Been so many bangers of the last 20 years or so.

    I feel guys like Jeffries, Dempsey, Louis and Marciano might also be a bit overrated in terms of power. They sure could bang, but I don't think they're on the level of many of the big hulks of the steroid era (from the early to mid 80's roughly) in terms of pure power. Louis was a much more precise and skilled puncher, but when it comes to raw power I think several fighters of the last decades outdoes him.
     
  4. Arriba

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    Couldn't tell you off the top of my head if I tried man.
     
  5. prime

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    Marciano, in his left hand.

    Suspects to me are Jeffries and Johansson, whose brief careers and small opponents make them difficult to rate.
     
  6. RonnieHornschuh

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    i agree with those who said george. of course he had huge power, but he hasn't really many one punch ko's (can't think of one). he just overwhelmed his opponent physically which led the ref to stop the fight after numerous knockdowns.
     
  7. prime

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    I strongly disagree with Foreman and Tyson's having overrated power.

    Anyone who floors Frazier early in Round 1, thrusts Chuvalo into the ropes in Round 3 as Foreman did with one left hook, and flattens the heavyweight champion with one punch at age 44, is an all-time puncher. Without steroids, Foreman's body ripples with power and his kayo percentage, from the Olympics, speaks for itself.

    His telegraphed swinging allowed the opponent to brace, if only for precious, but I believe crucial, milliseconds, on the one hand, and his less-than-pinpoint accuracy made for many grazing clubs that would floor you with their heaviness, not spark you out.

    But watch his second knockdown of Frazier in Jamaica. The power was crushing.

    And any opinion belittling the rampaging power of Mike Tyson, who nailed Larry Holmes to the canvas in under four rounds in merciless fashion, is misled to me.
     
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    In that clip, it looked like Holyfield was whuppin George's ass. So he can't fight to fast in the inside. I knew he had a weakness. Everyone does....

    Don't they?
     
  10. Arriba

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    I'm under the impression we're talking pure heavyweight power. Tyson had a ridiculous combination of power, speed, skill and refined accuracy. I just don't think he was the most powerful heavyweight ever. Some people seem to believe that and I disagree.

    I think he's a great powerful heavy of course...I just disagree with people who say Mike is THE top.
     
  11. prime

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    The average bloke on the street, yes, but I don't think many hard-core fans, or "experts", have said Tyson is the most powerful of heavyweights. Foreman and Shavers, even Max Baer, have usually been given those laurels.

    But I don't believe for a second Mike's power is overrated.

    In fact, I would say that with the advent of so many muscle mountains of the post-Tyson steroid era, Mike's power may become a little devalued, but this would be a mistake. Even with enhancements, hardly any of the modern heavies are in the same league as Tyson or the traditional greatest punchers.
     
  12. TheGreatA

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    It would have most likely been different if Big George had been 20 years younger and weighed 35 lbs less.
     
  13. janitor

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    Once perhaps.

    I think today he is more routinely underrated to be honest.
     
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    Foreman's best punch was the uppercut.
     
  15. groove

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    Foreman's best punch was his right uppercut and when it landed in his best years against frazier and norton it was devastating. Ali knew this and used the elastic ropes to pull/lean back and nulify that punch. Also he could tie him up if he came too close. You gotta find the advantages and weaknesses of every fighter you face and find a plan to exploit it. Ali was a master of that bar Norton :)