JMM-Mayweather is the size an issue...

Mayweather is'nt calling all of the shots.......if he wants to fight a legit fighter who is'nt naturally bigger than he is....then its time for him to meet JMM and concede down the middle on the weight issue......
......I'm certain that Mayweather is going to be making alot more money than Marquez would be making for this fight........and with that, comes concessions......


I'd bet if JMM asked Mayweather, "OK, lets do it at 145 lbs and go 50/50 on the purse split, Mayweather would say absolutely not.

Mayweather wants to have it both ways......

Now if Mayweather does'nt want to concede to the weight issue, I'm sure he there are true welterweights out there he can fight that will make him more money that a JMM fight......

......lets be real here, its looking very much like Mayweather has become a fighter that does'nt have the balls to accept a true challenge.

.....according to Bob Arum, Mayweather will not be dictationg terms against Pac, and that includes the weight.
In a recent article, Arum stated that Pac would not fight Mayweather at Welter.......and if thats the case and Mayweather truly wants to fight again......its time to fight true welters like Williams, (who does have the balls to drop weight, in fact two weights from where he last fought)....and or fight Mosely or the winner of Cotto-Clottey.

......but noooooo, Mayweather has become the spoiled little brat that DLH always was......he now wants to negotiate against smaller fighters to move up to fight him.

 

He wants it at 147 lbs, not because Mayweather cant come any lower, but because he knows that at 147 lbs, he's clearly established that he can fight there while JMM has'nt even established he can fight legit 140 pounders.....

Mayweather wants it at 147 lbs because it clearly enhances the chances of an upset not occuring.



Listen, a solid reason why this fight should happen at 140 lbs is that if it were to be signed tommorow at 140-142 lbs, Mayweather would open a solid favorite in the betting odds........

.....the fact that Mayweather would be the solid betting favorite even at a fight at 140 lbs, goes to show why the fight should take place there.

.....if there were to sign the fight closer to 147 lbs, Mayweather would double the odds already favoring him.

Its a no brainer, the fight is fair and still favoring Mayweather at 140-142 lbs.

 

agains't pac i agree with you, pac is becoming big and pac since he won againt hoya i don't think he would like being offered the lower part of the purse.

but c'mon were talking about jmm, jmm needs floyd more than floyd needs him and you know i'm telling the truth so floyd calls all the shots here. jmm is still on the point of getting there to pacquaio status, this is his ticket to stardom. Lets face it he won't become any bigger unless he faces and beats someone who is a big name. I'm not talking about juan diaz or old casamayor big names but big names the likes of pac, hatton, floyd etc.

Pac got there fighting dlh with all the disadvantages on his side, lets be honest we don't see that weight drained dlh coming and i guess it was more like he was destined that night or simply God was on his side.

If you don't think its fair and think that floyd should just fight cotto or mosley then i think its you and your fav fighter jmm's lost. This is his chance imo, its like a gamble and if he is succesful then you know the rest

 

So Mayweather cuts a few lbs to 147 to weigh 148 or so on fight night. While Marquez weighs 140-144 (heard different reports(

So... all it does is make Mayweather cut weight and not Marquez according to you.

So why not fight at 147. Marquez weighs 140. Mayweather 147. And no one cuts weight.

you're excuses are dumb.

 

I dont agree with you post......Mayweather needs JMM and Pac just as much as they need him, for the simple fact that Mayweather is unwilling to fight true welters.

If Mayweather was mowing down the current crop of welters, I'd be inclined to agree with you......but he's not, he's avoiding the better fighters at 147 lbs......Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, and even more so now that Paul Williams dominated Winky.

Mayweather wants none of Paul Williams......so if Mayweather is'nt willing to fight true welters, he's not in position to call all the shots........some of the shots yes, but not all of the shots.......
.....you see, the opposing promotional Co. like GBP and Top Rank, know that they have Mayweather pinned to concede to demands, knowing he's unwilling to fight true welters.

 

c'mon were talking about jmm here and not mayweather, he can stay retired if he wants. He's helping jmm out by giving him a big payday, you know the real money for mayweather is a fight with pac and this is just a tune up for him. And you can quote me on this and trust me, the numbers for a floyd-marquez fight won't do nothing compared or not even close to a floyd- hatton,hoya,pac bout.

And why are you always trying to bring up floyd won't fight true welters crap? Paul williams, he's good and i think he'll be a great fighter but c'mon at this point of career just like pac its all about the money for floyd especially considering that he is coming out of retirement

You can't expect a big superstar to come out of retirement and fight these up and comers no one but a few people know about, Lets get real and be honest, did you really expect pbf to fight paul williams? lol..i just don't see the logic in there

And about cotto and mosley, pbf offered them before, they don't want any of pbf..plus their stocks have fallen right now especially cotto. He needs to regain that lost he had against margarito and to be honest i also don't see any money in there for floyd.

 

Your posts are lacking of a solid foundation.

Floyd has ducked true welters and thats a fact......an Antonio Margarito fight would have been huge after Margarito had just polished off Cotto.......Margarito called both he and DLH out, and both ignored him......

.....now that a lightweight calls out Mayweather, all of a sudden he's interested in fighting the smaller fighter, but its got to be at Welter?:nut

Honestly I respect Mayweathers abilities, but he fast is losing true credibility with the true boxing fans.

 

i think you haven't replied to my post at all:-(, you suddenly dig up something in the past and brought it here. This post has nothing to do at all with the discussion, and you are dismissing the facts i and many other people have stated. Floyd called out jmm, you know he is already doing your hero a favor by coming out of retirement just to give him a shot at his name:hi:

i don't feel the need to reply with that post you brought up from nowhere, it didn't belong at all in regarding the discussion but when margo won against cotto you knew floyd was already out of the game by then. Whether hoya avoided margo that is not my problem, we don't really have the need to bring margo up.

Honestly i don't see anything good he can offer for floyd. And seeing that he already got beat down by an old past prime mosley and got caught cheating and a question mark on his entire career i don't understand the need to even mention his name lolatsch

 

Of course you're not interested in replying to logic......

.....and my statements have everything to do with the thread topic......the topic being the weight issue.....and to date, Mayweather retired at the height of competition in the welterweight division.....Williams, Cotto, Margarito, and you even throw Mosley in the mix now that he's destroyed Margarito.......all of these fighters being legit threats to Mayweather.....

.....it has everything to do with Mayweather ducking......he wants to fight as a Welter, but he does'nt want ot fight true welters.........he wants wants to fight lightweight at the welterweight limit!:rofl:rofl:rofl

.....and btw, when JMM called out Mayweather, he did'nt say what weight......that is being negotiated now and only one fighter is willing to concede to make the fight happen......

......now if Mayweather wants to prove his worth as a Welter.......fight a true welter.......while JMM never indicated he was willing to move up to Welter to fight Mayweather.......a fighter who just fought at 160 lbs, did call out Mayweather and said he'd drop all the way to 147 lbs to do it......

Williams is willing to drop 12 lbs to fight Mayweather, but Mayweather wont drop half that much to fight an aging JMM!

The weight issue has everything to do with it, Mayweather does'nt have the balls to fight Welterweights, he wants to fight lightweights at the welterweight limit.....

What Mayweather is doing now is making an ass of himself by negotiating to fight a lightweight at the Welterweight limit, when you have much more proven fighters at that weight limit more than willing to fight him.

The weight limit has stalled negotiations for JMM-Mayweather.....if he wants to make a return, bow out of those negotiations and try negotiating with a true welter for a change.

Bottom line, the fact that they're in negotiations shows that Mayweather is interested in a Marquez fight......now lets see if he has the balls to make reasonable weight concessions down the middle and make this a fair matchup.

I repeat, yes, JMM called out Mayweather but he never said at wish weight.......Paul Williams also called out Mayweather and he's letting Mayweather name the weight.......why is'nt Mayweather negotiating to fight Williams, did'nt Williams just call out Mayweather the way JMM did?

If there is ever a time to fight Paul Williams, its right now when he just got through dominating Winky Wright.
What better accoladed could Mayweather get at this point than to beat the man who just finished dominating Winky Wright?

.......Weight has everything to do with it.....Mayweather wants to fight as a Welterweight, but he does'nt want to fight a Welterweight......



My apologies to everyone for repeating myself, but for certain posters that just refuse to acknowleadge logic, its sometimes neccesary.:yep

 

Floyd wants a warm up. Why are you complaining?

 

This has got to be a top 10 ESB dumbest statements ever!atsch

 

logic my ass, sorry but we are discussing about jmm-floyd and we are not discussing about mayweather ducking welters. And i don't have to make unnecessary replies to all that you post just as so not to derail the topic:hi:

you sound like mayweather was a welter fighting lightweights all his lifeatsch

please point me an example/examples where he was choosing fighters 2-3 divisions below him to fight him. If you can't name an example then you lose with your argument.

DLH has done that fighting forbes, pac, hopkins with dlh and tito and we all gave credit for that and jones-ruiz, so many examples out there and you sound like mayweather was making a career fighting smaller fighters. In fact imo this is the first time, you can say hatton-mayweather but hatton got to 147 before and there was nobody using that excuse.

In fact this is just the 1st time mayweather is going to do this and considering that he thinks of this as just a tune up bout for him. I don't see why he can't do it and take hate for doing it considering how so many others have done it(my examples above).

Pac moved up 147 fought hoya, there was no **** excuse from his fans and they supported his decision even though they knew pac was in deep ****. Now why can't the same be said of marquez fans?:think Considering the fact also that dlh called out pac, and marquez was the one who called out mayweather.

Honestly divac as a marquez fan, are u scared for marquez? Don't worry, the pac fans have gone through this before and pac won somehow like a miracle a lot of people can't believe:deal

 

all you are saying is, Marquez should force Mayweather to cut weight.

Good Job divac you are proving yourself to even dumber than capsfund.

 

ok on the side note since we are talking about logic heres a little logical scenario for your ass.

mayweather was offered by two fighters marquez and paul williams.

-Marquez is a better p4p fighter and has a higher rating p4p(p4p no.2)

-he is a more skilled opponent than williams

-marquez has more star power than williams that will bring more people to the sport

-marquez is a good tune up bout for a fight against pac since they are of around the same weight class

-so paul dominated old winky, but marquez beat diaz and casamayor, now whose win was better?

If you disagree on all my points especially the last part, i'll question your being a marquez fan:yep
since all that i have said points out that marquez is better than williams

The logical choice is marquez. now whats that about logic you are talking about?lol: