Attention Margarito defense attorneys. Here is your argument

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  1. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly what percentage ratio of calcium too sulfer constitutes plaster of paris????????
    Merely finding minute particles of sulfer and calcium , plaster of paris does not make.

    Additionally this had to be examined under microscopes, mass spectrometers, gas chromatographs in order to be found at all.
    IE- RIGOROUSLY EXAMINED in order to produce " trace elements".


    The commission stated " Traces of plaster of paris" NOT that they had determined plaster of paris had actually been used on the wraps.
    There is a HUGE difference between" traces of plaster of Paris"
    AND "Plaster of Paris " in its true chemical form.

    Since the commission has already committed itself to " Plaster of Paris" it would seem they can't turn back now and change the allageations to suit their needs.

    In reference to foreign substances - Gauze is not a foreign substance, in boxing.
    There would seem to be a loophole here.

    Trace elements of mortar in a boxing glove does not prove a brick was ever in the glove.

    In the case of a dry rag...............One water molecule has one single oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms covalently bonded to it.

    If trace elements of Hydrogen and oxygen are found on a dry rag........"Does this mean the dry rag is wet?

    Now that the gauze in question has had ample time to set up and cure, I'd be interested in comparing it to any other USED gauze in the same condition and then guage the differences in " hardness" between the two.

    My guess is there would be no difference.
     
  2. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And your point is???
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So many failures... So little time to address them.
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    The guy cheated and is suspended for it. If what he used is legal and good like pregnant piece of trash Freddy Lokz is trying to tell you then he wouldn't be suspended, simple as that.

    They know this fraud of a fighter cheated and they suspended his ass, end of story. Arguing this is just ******ed when the result is done with and he was caught cheating. Only ******s like Freddy Lokz will argue that because race is involved.
     
  6. venomus_p4p

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    Failure of a thread...
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Didn't he sack his trainer?

    It's a bit late to start arguing that there was nothing dodgy in his handwraps now...
     
  8. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please tell us you didn't stay up all night writhing this.....

    or all week in exhaustive research such as Freddy-Wak / Bazooka.....

    Please tell us it was just a joke or possibly a transient and random thought while blazing.
     
  9. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    According to sources on this site, Grandpa Arum and team Margarito plan to appeal the findings.

    I curious as to the strategy they'll be using.
    I think I may have presented some of the argument that will be heard.

    I'm interested in this and if the suspension is reversed I would think many here would be interested to know why RATHER THAN THE CRIES OF "MARGARITO CHEATED LETS CUT HIS HEAD OFF."
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too much money has changed hands for us to ever know every detail of what truly happened after the night of the fight. Too much corrupttion, too many warring agendas.

    What we do know is that on the night of the fight, something was so illegal about the way Margarito's hands were wrapped that it was necessary to not only rewrap them, but investigate the initial infraction. To that degree, Capetillo and Margarito brought this entire situation on themselves.

    The investigation then moved slowly and without enough transparency, giving a small faction of Margarito diehards the chance to concoct a fantasy world where their favorite fighter is being set up.

    But in the end, unless you believe that the CSAC has some personal vendetta against Margarito, justice is being served here. You break the rules, you pay a price.
     
  11. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree and am not insinuating that they will win the appeal.
    I'm interested in the strategy they will use..............and if you think money has changed hands already...........just wait until the appeal procedure starts.

    They may pull it off..........if so...........will anything above be used?
    Remember..........the entire scenario will be based on trace elements.
     
  12. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesnt matter what Lawyers say. Public opinion will be "Margo cheated". We all know how lawyers twist things. Most people think Margo cheated no matter what the lawyers. managers, or promoters say or do.
     
  13. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Will what the people say stop a big money fight between Margarito and the winner of the Clottey vs Cotto fight?

    We're talking about politics and money now.
    In government, what the people say and want,.....and what they get are two entirely different entities.
    What makes you think it will be any different here?
     
  14. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As do I !!!!!
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Someone in team Margarito was the second gunman on the grassy Knoll.