Which heavyweight Champ had the most overated power?

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  1. celtic tiger

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    Wladimir Klitschko. People talk about this guy as hitting harder than tyson and lewis no way . Corrie Sanders is another guy whos power is completely overrated . He knocked out wlad so what kilt fans think he hits harder than lewis no way . Dont get me wrong sanders and wlad are hard punchers but they wouldnt even be in the top 50 hardest punching heavyweights.
     
  2. RonnieHornschuh

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    not in the top 50? you are a bit over the line here. tell me some fighters who punch harder than wlad besides the obvious ones (shavers, foreman, tyson, tua, ruddock) or who just made it into the top 50 .
     
  3. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I Wouldn't put him on the level of a Tyson or Lewis in terms of power, but does hit ****ing hard and definitely makes a top 50 hardest punching heavyweights list.

    Fact is that any opponent of his (outside of Sanders whom he never touched) was either stopped, hurt, staggered, knocked down or knocked out and that's a pretty amazing feat. Brewster, never down before, was knocked down twice and stopped in the rematch. Byrd, very durable, down four times and stopped despite a non-aggressive style. Thompson, never down, hurt or out until he fought Wlad when he was all three. Brock, never stopped before. McCline, never down or stopped before or seven years after until he was way past his best and quit. Austin, knocked out with a single 4-left hook volley without ever using the right hand. Regardless of your opinion on him or the opposition, that IS impressive stuff.
     
  4. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both Klitchsko Brothers had overated power as far as I'm concerned. Foreman, Liston, Lyle, Shavers, Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson are the hardest punchers IMO. The Klitschko's don't belong in this class of heavyweights for power.

    Honourable heavyweight mentions, Joe Louis, Tua, Ruddock, Marciano, Dempsey.
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Sam Peter for me. He has not KOed anyone worth a crap. His best KO is Maskaev who has a Glass Jaw.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Huh? Tyson needed ONE left hook to made Tony Tubbs do a jiggy dance before falling down and out..Tubbs a Top contender never came close to being stopped before, i dont think he was ever even down before.

    Michael Spinx- One Right hand, Spinx out cold. Spinx Undefeated heavyweight champion, never been down before

    Larry Holmes- Never stopped before or after fighting tyson. Tyson only needed a couple right hands to put larry out cold

    How bout the one short left uppercut he hit Berbick with, that made Berbick do a dance around the ring like he was on dances with stars.


    I mean tyson was destroying top rated fighters in a few rounds that had never been close to being stopped before. You see Tyson had special kind of power, power that when he hit you, the other guy did funny things....Joe Louis had that kind of power.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Ever see the Harry Kid Matthews Kayo? Matthews over 100 pro fights never down for the 10 count before
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know if anyone's already mentioned him, and I'm not about to flip back through four pages of text to find out, but I think James Jeffries may be a tad over rated in the power department.

    He was 6'3", 220 Lbs, and is commonly credited for his great punching ability. When we look at his opponents however, most of them are well under 200 lbs, some under 6 feet, and a few were past prime. He also took a number of rounds trying to put these guys away. I'm not saying Jeff doesn't have power, but I think history mistakes him as being a huge puncher when in fact, he was probably more of an endurance fighter who outlasted or wore down his opponents.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very true, and I don't think Tyson's power is overrated. But I think a big part of the impressive KO's listed above is due to Tyson impeccable timing, speed and acuuracy. Berbick, Spinks and Tubbs probably didn't see those coming, 'cause they were so fast, compact and well timed.

    Holmes saw the punches, but also took a couple of clean ones straight on the chin before going out. The last one came when his own counter uppercut got tangled in the ropes. That will do a number on you.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    Good Call Maghoo. Jeffries was supposed to be some kind of George Foreman/Sonny Liston 220lb Monster.... took many rounds to dispose of supermiddleweights/lightheavyweights. I could understand if Jeffries was Marciano/Dempseys size, but he was supposed to be some kind of 220lb freak hulk monster. His size and strength alone should have dominated them early. Choynski wont last the first round with liston, Fitzimmons would get hammered in 2 short rounds by foreman, Tom Sharkey would get clobbered early by tyson.


    PS Boxrec Lists Jeffries as 6'0 tall, not 6'3 like you claim. Photos show Jeffries to be closer to 6'0 flat.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I've seen Jeffries listed at all different heights, 6'0", 6'2", 6'3"... Either way, he was fighting men who were a lot smaller than he was, and probably less conditioned. I don't think he fairs well as a big puncher from say Louis's era onward, unless he does something drastic to change his style.
     
  12. MRBILL

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    Jack Dempsey:admin...... I'm serious:good...... Dempsey hit hard for his size, but I doubt if Dempsey would be knocking dudes out left and right had he fought the heavies of the post 1960 era in a time machine.....:hey

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  13. MRBILL

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    I think Jimmy Jeffries was closer to 6' 1" tall and a solid 222 pounds... for 1900, that's huge..... Jeffries had power..... If it took J.J. a while to get to and pound a mother down and out, it was dude to the style of boxing back then... In 1900 we had lotsa' slow-paced matches.... Especially at heavyweight.......

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  14. Dempsey1238

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    Dont blame Jeff for taking his time. Jeff was no Mike Tyson in 1 or 2 round ko regard, Jeff I feel saved his enegry because he knew he had 45 plus rounds to go.

    Tyson never had to worry about that. Could Tyson have gone 25 plus rounds with Smith'??? Sure Tyson would be way ahead on points, but I think Tyson would also perhaps slow himself down if he was thinking, I have a long ways to go, better save my enegry, just "incase" I get to the 30th round.
     
  15. MRBILL

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    I agree there to a certain extent...... If a fighter smells a blow-out, and feels he can dust his opponent early, he'll go for it.... But if a fighter feels threatened at all, and is facing a schedule 45 rounder or so, he'll prolly be more inclined to conserve himself and pick and choose his shots....

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