Hatton will win within 5 rounds....

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  1. Skills n Reflexes

    Skills n Reflexes Member Full Member

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    Now before people start thinking this is some kind of newbie prediction, or a prediction from someone that knows nothing about boxing, please read the rest of the post.

    Firstly, I'm always on this site, like a daily addiction, just dont post very much but wanted to shed my two cents on this fight since its such a big one. So please dont think I registered 4 hours ago from rickyhatton.com :good

    I'm suprised by the amount of people who think this is a walkover for Manny - I really am, really suprised. For me, the only REAL advantage and problem I see for Hatton is the southpaw stance, and THATS IT. Forget the speed, footwork, punching power, whatever, its Mannys southpaw stance that poses the biggest obstacle.

    I believe the fight will be over within 5 rounds, there or thereabouts. Hatton will be pressuring, not Manny. Manny will be on the backfoot because if he holds the centre of the ring, he'll be mauled backwards. I dont think people realise how strong Hatton is at 140, he is an absolute bull at this weight and will push Manny backwards (getting hit on times of course).

    To beat Hatton you need to be either stronger than him (Collazo, Urango) or have excellent defence (Mayweather). Manny has a mix of both, actually his defence is relatively poor, but offensively very good. Trading with Hatton will be his downfall, since he'll be trading most of the time on the backfoot where he isn't as succesful. You CANT box succesfully on the backfoot against Hatton, only Mayweather managed it and he was literally RUNNING for the first 6 rounds. You can't float around the ring and pick off your shots, it doesnt work because he closes too quickly. Like I said, Floyd was the only one capable of acheiving it, and it wasn't as easy as some would like to make out.

    Hattons strength will suprise Manny and he'll get overwhelmed I believe, and early too. The Oscar fight has put a false perception on this fight IMO.

    Biggest issue for Hatton is the southpaw stance, thats it... his strength and sheer roughhouse tactics will win his this fight, and very early on.

    Your thoughts....



    SnR
     
  2. the-demon

    the-demon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    think your bang on mate...:good
     
  3. TommyV

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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Pretty good post except that Mayweather wasn't running for the first 6 rounds against Hatton. Harold Lederman was actually criticising Floyd for not moving enough. He stood his ground for the most part and Hatton was hitting nothing but air, elbows and shoulders. I'm not sure Manny can do the same.
     
  5. TommyV

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    I doubt it.
     
  6. Irishbc

    Irishbc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another big factor, Mayweathers defence is the most versatile around,hes amazing at manipulating his opponents offence into his own, Pac-mans is very traditional and one-dimensional

    could prove a problem if Hatton gets close...
     
  7. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    Good effort. However, Hatton's chin is not very good. I dont believe Hatton will be able to pin Manny on the ropes for long enough to do any real damage, especially as Pacquiao has far greater handspeed which will be used to beat Hatton to the punch
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Finally, some damn sense talk from someone. :thumbsup
     
  9. Irishbc

    Irishbc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes it is good... not granite..but good.
    people think because mayweather KO'd him he has a bad chin, taking punches over and over eventually make you go.
     
  10. monjay

    monjay Active Member Full Member

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    The thing with Manny is he will not pick up his shots. As Mike Tyson said, he will throw in bunches.

    I believe whoever connects cleanly and feel the power of the shots, it is just a matter of time and lights out for anyone of them.

    I'm leaning towards Manny Pacquiao because of his heart.
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Skills n Reflexes:

    Now before people start thinking this is some kind of newbie prediction, or a prediction from someone that knows nothing about boxing, please read the rest of the post.

    Whenever someone says "I don't mean to be rude" they are about to be rude, when they say "I'm not trying to be a dick" they are about to be a dick, and when they say "before you think this is a newbie prediction" they are about to make a newbie prediction :yep:good

    Firstly, I'm always on this site, like a daily addiction, just dont post very much but wanted to shed my two cents on this fight since its such a big one. So please dont think I registered 4 hours ago from rickyhatton.com :good

    I was a regular reader long before I became a poster as well, this place is an addiction for both

    I'm suprised by the amount of people who think this is a walkover for Manny - I really am, really suprised. For me, the only REAL advantage and problem I see for Hatton is the southpaw stance, and THATS IT. Forget the speed, footwork, punching power, whatever, its Mannys southpaw stance that poses the biggest obstacle.

    The Southpaw stance may be the only REAL advantage, but it is a huge advantage. It's not the only REAL advantage though. Spead kills, and combined with the discomfort with the southpaw stance, it can kill brutally and quickly. Also you are dismissing and ignoring how strong Manny may be at this weight. Nobody would've thought Mayweather would appear the stronger man either, but he did...I know that fight was at 147lbs, but Mayweather himself, like Manny, came up from the lower weights.

    I believe the fight will be over within 5 rounds, there or thereabouts. Hatton will be pressuring, not Manny. Manny will be on the backfoot because if he holds the centre of the ring, he'll be mauled backwards. I dont think people realise how strong Hatton is at 140, he is an absolute bull at this weight and will push Manny backwards (getting hit on times of course).

    Manny will not be fighting off the backfoot, he will come forward in bursts, then TRY to work lateral and head movement. Hatton likes to press, but if he is getting stuck with straight lefts, and Manny is not in front of him, then he will not be effective and his aggression will work against him.

    To beat Hatton you need to be either stronger than him (Collazo, Urango) or have excellent defence (Mayweather). Manny has a mix of both, actually his defence is relatively poor, but offensively very good. Trading with Hatton will be his downfall, since he'll be trading most of the time on the backfoot where he isn't as succesful. You CANT box succesfully on the backfoot against Hatton, only Mayweather managed it and he was literally RUNNING for the first 6 rounds. You can't float around the ring and pick off your shots, it doesnt work because he closes too quickly. Like I said, Floyd was the only one capable of acheiving it, and it wasn't as easy as some would like to make out.

    Stronger and great defense, those are the ways Hatton has beeen exploited in the past, yes. But who's to say being a couple levels faster wouldn't also beat him. And I'll repeat, we don't know Pac ISN'T stronger then him.

    Hattons strength will suprise Manny and he'll get overwhelmed I believe, and early too. The Oscar fight has put a false perception on this fight IMO.

    Possibly, quite possibly :good

    Biggest issue for Hatton is the southpaw stance, thats it... his strength and sheer roughhouse tactics will win his this fight, and very early on.

    I disagree, I think the speed will be the bigget issue. :deal
     
  12. Skills n Reflexes

    Skills n Reflexes Member Full Member

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    I dont think Hatton needs Manny to be on the ropes though. To me, thats another mis-conception. He just needs to be close, it doesnt matter if thats on the ropes or the centre of the ring.

    Also, Hatton doesnt really get hit with combinations, he gets hit single times from single punches. When he slows (ie rounds 7-12) you can land combinations, ala Collazo and Mayweather. But I believe the fight will be over before it gets to that stage, simply because Manny doesnt have the defence (Mayweather) or the strength (Collazo) to withstand the Hatton onslaught from the beginning.


    SnR
     
  13. dannymoo99

    dannymoo99 New Member Full Member

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    Good post. Hatton takes some shots but eventually wears Pac down. Late stoppage.
     
  14. boricua_cotto1

    boricua_cotto1 LATIN KINGS Full Member

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    yeah good post .....i want manny to win but i think ricky will come out with the victory im a fan of both but my head wants paquiao but my instinct tells me that hatton will win
     
  15. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hahaha funny post, these Hatton fans are obsessed with his strength. They seem to forget that Pac is actually stronger than Hatton. I wont be surprised if Hatton gets stopped by a Pacman body punch.