Vlad Picked Haye

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Farmboxer, Apr 23, 2009.


  1. Metal Man

    Metal Man Active Member Full Member

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    The rematch clauses are there because its an option defence and not a mandatory.

    The contractual clause for the fight with Vitali is not their as some kind of ***** move like Haye and his fans are claiming but so that Vitali can beat the living ****ing crap out of him if he were to beat Vlad particularly after the trash talk and disrespecting of the family and just the guys aura,its got their backs up particularly Vitalis.Vitali probably detests Haye even more and was desperate to fight first time round before the WBC stepped in with the Gomez mandatory.The last thing he wants is Haye looking for other options or even running.
     
  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simple question - if Haye had not done all this song & dance, did the decapitation photo and the trash-talking and so on...would Wlad have picked him?

    No. Haye pushed Wlad into picking him. This was no out-of-the-blue selection.
     
  3. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do not understand a word you are saying.

    Wlad picked Haye, yes. But on the other hand Wladc also inserted those multiple rematch clauses. One rematch clause is OK, but there were more than one. If Wlad was so sure he would win, he would not have done this, end of story.
     
  4. ya-ni

    ya-ni Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad was at a charity event in this youtube one you pulled up, an if wlad broke from his natural nicest to throw a punch (which would be highly unlikly), everybody at the place would be shocked an extreamly offened an wonder if the person he hit was one of the charity prospects, unless the information i have is incorrect, this fundraiser was to help feed africans, an hitting a african (or decendent) at an one of these events would be pretty stupid an so would yelling at him,,,,,,This could very easly been taken the wrong way by the spectators, an cost donation to africa:hi:
     
  5. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes that is true.

    Voluntary defense from the Champion Wladimir Klitschko.
     

  6. He didn't to punch the "African" :patsch

    But he could have acted like a man and maybe engage in some eye cotact... Instead of looking up to the sky stuttering
     
  7. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    So Wlad is a cherrypicker?
     
  8. ya-ni

    ya-ni Active Member Full Member

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    It was a CHARITY event, an to stare down someone would of showed no respect for the place they were in, alot of food problems in africa comes from war, an to make the eye contact your talking about is pretty much going against the whole events peaceful nature,,,come on get a clue:hi:
     
  9. Ilesey

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    Off the back of this post, if Wlad doesn't walk through Haye within the first couple of rounds, you nor anyone else should give him any credit for such a routine win. :deal

    Twat. :blood
     
  10. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Give him credit for making this "Fearless Destroyer" that you call Haye INTO a routine win. :deal


    For the love of Boxing - stop - we could spin this a million different ways for all eternity, there's just no point in it.
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Wlad picked Haye to win probably.
     
  12. boricua_cotto1

    boricua_cotto1 LATIN KINGS Full Member

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    lol you gotta love haye for going to the mans face andcalling him out
     
  13. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    This is true, despite what Wlad-haters or Haye-fans would like to think.

    Wlad chose this fight.

    People call out the Klits all the time. Just look at Shannon Briggs. Saying that Haye's smack-talk somehow forced the fight just isn't correct.

    People say that Wlad didn't buy into some confrontation at a charity event. Seriously, it would have been out of character for him to do so, inappropriate and extremely disappointing. Trying to wrangle some semblance of "fear" out of Wlad's behaviour is totally misunderstanding his character.

    People say that the rematch clauses are a sign that Wlad is scared of Haye. Which menas that people are saying that Wlad has to be ignorant of even the possibility of a loss or he has proven he is scared.
    Sorry, but Wlad is one of the smartest HWs in history, and he isn't burdened by an unrealistic ego. He knows he can lose, and he is prepared for that chance. He knows he can lose any fight.
    So why the rematch clause with his brother? Well, why not? Have we ever been in this situation where two brothers are the recognised champs? No. So what do we have to judge this on? There is no precedent. But given how important it is to the Klits to have either brother in control of the belts, it is not surprising that they have thrown this in. Again it is an acknowledgement that Haye could win. Even the dumbest of posters knows that Haye can win. (Even someone as deluded as farmboxer has given him a chance!)

    At the end of the day, none of the so called evidence that supposedly proves that Wlad is scared of Haye trumps the fact: Wlad chose the fight. He didn't have to. He chose it. He didn't do so thinking that he would lose. He chose it.
    No-one in Wlad's situation would choose a fight that they thought they would lose. It doesn't even make sense. Any claims that he somehow had to fight Haye seem pretty weak when examined even casually.
     
  14. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't bother...I remember the build-up to both Wlad-Peter and Vitali-Peter.

    Peter was basically described as some kind of sub-human moron that was so clumsy he couldn't even tie his own boot laces without falling over. Yet after Wlad and Vitali disposed of him, it's a big win with no shame at all.

    I think the saying is something along the lines of "don't **** in your own drinking water." The Klitschko hardcores, and indeed and Haye and many other hardcore fans, that try to build their fighter up by ripping their opponent down do no-one no favours in the slightest.

    Haye is the underdog but a live one. Recognising him as such should be obvious and necessary. But instead we get the playground stuff sometimes...
     
  15. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bingo, Good post mate! These same guys who caling Haye total bum, joke etc. are praising him as never before if their hero(Wlad) wins the match..:-(

    But I cant help myself that I would like to see Haye get belt from WBA frauds and then unify with Klittie and he would also prove himself to be a bad guy and it would also hype the fight more IMO.