who out of there prime lost a fight they still would have lost in there prime

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  1. butler08

    butler08 Active Member Full Member

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    example antonio tarver probably would have lost to dawson at any point in his career
    as would
    eubank to calzaghe

    any other example of cases like this?
     
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    Trinidad to Jones
     
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    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    Arce-Darchinyan comes to mind
     
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    Irishbc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    eubank to calzaghe? im not so sure...
     
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    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is not a very popular opinion but I think that DLH beats Chavez in his prime. At those lower weights Oscar was just too big and too fast.

    People say that Bhop was green when he lost to RJJ I think he would have lost even on his best day (assuming it was a prime RJJ of course) same with Toney against Roy.

    I think Tyson loses to Lewis even in his prime.

    Winky against hopkins

    DLH against Hopkins
     
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    butler08 Active Member Full Member

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    well i disagree but explain?
     
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    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tito against Winky
     
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    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Casa probably drops a SD to prime Marquez.
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Mayorga to Mosley.
     
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    Irishbc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i said im not so sure,there is a case for both, but did you actually watch eubank in his prime? he never attacked anyone when he hurt them after the watson tragedy, i was there in person when he wobbled collins and refused to try and finish it.
    you know that guy in your av? ive been in a film with him ;)
     
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    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Call me crazy, but just based on styles Toney would give a prime version of your avatar a tough night. Won't go so far as to say he'd lose for sure, but it would have been a hell of a fight.
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Depends on what you mean on a ''tough night''.
    Toney beat a past it,41 year old one handed inactive fighter in 03 and it still took him a few rounds to figure Holyfield up.Toney was eating left hooks the first few rounds till he made adjustments.Toney was moving up so he had super fast combos and Evander couldn't get off or get out of the way.
    A prime Evander beats Toney IMO.
     
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    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love them both, don't get me wrong.

    Toney ate hooks for one round, not the first few. I just think that version of Toney (not the bloated punching bag who fought Peter) would have always been a tough test for Evander. Great chin, great defense, fast hands, and a much smaller target than Evander was used to hitting. If he could have gotten into a rhythm against Evander's offense, without gassing the way he did against Jirov (huge if), it would have been anyone's fight.
     
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    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    :nono

    Eubank pre Watson would have quite possibly beaten Calzaghe.
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I thought the fight was even after 4,then Toney took over.Toney had his best performance at HW probably then.
    IMO Holyfield would have won but I see your point.