Wlad is crying over Haye's trash talk, imagine what he wouldve done against Ali

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Keep holding on to the dream..................in the end the Steelhammer beats the Hayfaker. :deal
     
  2. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Will Waldo claim that he was poisoned once Haye knocks him out like with Brewster?
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    5 rounds or less depending on how low Haye keeps his hands against the best jab in the business.

    Haye has never felt the power he will feel against Wlad, Haye was on the deck from Barrett's punches.................
     
  4. Monstar

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    Word, took the words right off of my keyboard, I love how people try to say Ali had class, when the only reason they think that is becuzz he won and kept on winning, had Ali not of been a great everyone would remmeber as nothing more then a joke, cuzz in boxing as long as you win legitematly nothing else matters, all that foul bull**** you said and did prior to fight will just be overlooked as "charisma", "hype", or "entertainment".....

    So the moral of the story is, as long as Haye delivers, then all his antics will be praised as psychological warfare, but if for whatever reason he fails, he'll look like a straight fraud and be laughed out of the sport, and possibly for good
     
  5. Fighting Weight

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    Or the poisoned water maybe, or the CIA or the FBI? Or the fact that WALDO had done no sparring prior to the fight as that seems to be the latest excuse for him getting his clock cleaned by Golf Sanders :nut
     
  6. RUSKULL

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    Who said there was poison in the Brewster fight. Clearly Wlad was not normal, but those things happen without the aid of poison. Sometimes a person's blood suger level can create those symptoms.
     
  7. Fighting Weight

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    How many times has WALDO hit the deck again? 12 or 13?

    Haye was NOT on the deck from Barretts punches, damn you Klit-ites love to clutch at straws don't you :lol:
     
  8. djoc175

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    :patschHe was telling me that Wlad was ice cold as he entered the ring aswell.Also,Wladimir didn't want this fight,he wanted a holiday.Oh,not forgetting that Sanders is an ATG:nut
     
  9. Rui

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    Dear Mr. Bogden:

    I am an attorney representing Wladimir Klitschko, a professional boxer fighting as a heavyweight. I am writing to respectfully request that your office conduct an investigation into the highly suspicious events surrounding Mr. Klitschko’s April 10, 2004 Las Vegas bout against Lamon Brewster, and the equally suspicious frustration of Mr. Klitschko’s subsequent efforts to ascertain whether or not he had been illicitly drugged or poisoned prior to or during the bout with Mr. Brewster.

    As explained below, we are not leveling accusations against anyone in particular, and only seek an investigation to learn the truth and, if appropriate, punish the guilty. As evidenced by this week’s guilty plea in your District by Robert Mittelman to charges that he fixed fights and then unsuccessfully sought to bribe both a federal judge in your District and an Assistant United States Attorney in your Office, it is regrettably all too possible that someone sought to illegally influence the outcome of the Klitschko/Brewster bout. We believe that the facts of record to date more than justify a full investigation by your Office.

    THE EVENTS PRIOR TO THE KLITSCHKO/BREWSTER BOUT

    Before turning to what occurred during the bout, we first turn to a number of events that preceded the bout - events which, when viewed in connection with the events that followed, give off a strong odor of corruption.

    First, as reported by Dean Juipe in the April 19, 2004 Las Vegas Sun, the odds on the bout posted by both Mandalay Bay and Pinnacle, leading offshore sports books, plummeted from 11-1 in Mr. Klitschko’s favor to just 3.5-1 by fight time. As Mr. Juipe pointed out, this “could only happen if there was a huge influx of money wagered on [Mr. Brewster.]” The question, of course, is why? To be sure, odds change in the days and hours before a fight, but experience shows that it is virtually unheard of for them to change so dramatically in such a short period of time.

    Your investigation will reveal that Mr. Brewster was understandably a heavy underdog and that nothing in the public domain gave any cause for such a drastic change in the betting line. On the other hand, if a drugging of Mr. Klitschko was planned in advance, that fact would easily explain why there was so much “late money” bet on Mr. Brewster.

    In this regard, it should be noted that identifying unusual changes in the odds has been an effective weapon in ferreting out the fixing of sporting events. As reported on March 31, 2002 by Edward Epstein of the San Francisco Chronicle: “The [gaming] industry also claims that Nevada casinos have tipped off the FBI to a few college basketball point-shaving scandals over the past several years by looking for unusual betting patterns on games.” Further, a key ground for the general consensus that the March 1999 draw in the Lennox Lewis/Evander Holyfield bout was the product of corrupt judging, was the fact that the odds on that fight went from 11-5 in Lewis’s favor to “pick ‘em” by the time of the fight. Of course, the swift change in the odds on the Klitschko/Brewster fight were far more dramatic and therefore much more indicative of foul play.

    Second, there was a very suspicious incident concerning fight credentials. As you may know, certain credentials for a fight - such as the ones that give a person access to all areas of the arena on fight night - are highly prized and limited. For that reason and also, more importantly, because of security concerns, such credentials are released to an individual only if he or she is on a credentials list and he or she provides photo identification. Notwithstanding these procedures, when a member of the Klitschko team went to pick up his credential prior to the bout, he was told that it had already been picked up. When the team member asked for more information, it became clear that someone had picked up the credential by falsely claiming to be the team member. Given the requirement of photo identification, this error should not have been possible. Yet, it happened, thereby creating a situation where an unidentified person secured an all-access pass through fraud, thus providing himself unfettered access to the arena. While this scenario may seem outlandish, is it any more outlandish than Mr. Mittleman offering a judge and prosecutor in this District $15,000 to fix a case? Is it more outlandish that, in 1919, Arnold Rothstein bribed eight members of the Chicago White Sox so that they would throw the World Series?

    In sum, before the Klitschko/Brewster bout even began, there were strong indications - in the form of extreme volatility in the betting line and fraud in the securing of an all-access credential - that some mischief was afoot. Those indications ripened with what transpired next.

    THE KLITSCHKO/BREWSTER BOUT

    As both Mr. Klitschko and his entire team, including Hall of Fame trainer Emmanuel Steward, will attest, Mr. Klitschko was in extraordinary physical condition for the bout. Indeed, according to Mr. Klitschko, he had never trained so well or come into a bout so well-conditioned. Significantly, he had never shown himself to be a fighter who lacked conditioning or stamina. Thus, what happened on April 10 is wholly inconsistent with Mr. Klitschko’s career. To be sure, he has been knocked out before, but never under circumstances such as those that prevailed on April 10. One need only review the tape of the bout in order to have serious concerns as to whether he was drugged or poisoned - especially in light of the events both before and after the bout.

    Inexplicably, beginning in or about the second round, and prior to having been hit with any significant punches, Mr. Klitschko exhibited and experienced a rapid loss of energy, coherence and equilibrium. This fact was noted and is corroborated by the personal observations of his corner-men, who uniformly characterized his condition as something they had not seen previously in their long careers. They noted that he appeared to collapse during the bout, not from the effects of any blows, but rather from some other unknown cause. They also pointed out that Mr. Klitschko lacked the recuperative powers he had shown in all of his past fights, which he should have had in light of training and conditioning. These observations are consistent with publicly reported statements of Referee Robert Byrd, a very experienced official, who, in April 11, 2004's USA Today, stated: “I tried to get a response out of him but there was none. I've never stopped a fight like that." Similarly, in Mr. Juipe’s April 19, 2004 Las Vegas Sun article, an employee of the Palms Casino explained why there was no betting line available on the then-upcoming April 24, 2004 bout between Vitali Klitschko and Corrie Sanders: “It’s because the other Klitschko [Wladimir] looked like he was poisoned or something in the fight with Brewster.” (Emphasis supplied)

    Further evidencing foul play is the fact that Mr. Klitschko's condition after the April 10 fight cannot be reconciled with the recuperative powers demonstrated after his defeat by Corrie Sanders in March 2003. Mr. Klitschko also lost the Sanders bout by knockout. A review of that fight shows that Mr. Klitschko was knocked out fair and square by Mr. Sanders’s very visible and powerful blows. Significantly, if one reviews the tapes of both the Sanders and the Brewster fights, it is clear that Mr. Klitschko was hit much harder by Mr. Sanders than by Mr. Brewster. Within the boxing community Mr. Sanders is widely considered one the hardest punchers, far more dangerous than Mr. Brewster. Yet, within minutes of being knocked out by Mr. Sanders, Mr. Klitschko participated in post-fight interviews, in which he coherently communicated in several different languages. In contrast, following the stoppage in Las Vegas on April 10, observers reported that, despite being conscious, Mr. Klitschko's pupils appeared dilated, he was unable to communicate and he was unable to lift his head to respond to inquiries made by the attending physicians. This condition lasted for some time. Mr. Klitschko has also confirmed that his head was completely clear after the Brewster fight was stopped; yet he could not speak or move his body with ease It is also important to note that Mr. Klitschko’s blood sugar level after the fight was 230 -- almost twice the normal level. Medical experts have confirmed to the Klitschko team that such an elevated count may well indicate that Mr. Klitschko was given a foreign substance.

    In sum, the events that transpired at the actual bout also raise serious concerns about whether Mr. Klitschko’s performance was impeded by some hidden substance.


    Apparently, Waldo thought he was drugged when he got KTFO by Brewster.

    :deal:hi::hey
     
  10. Fighting Weight

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    Yep, getting smacked hard in the jaw can send a mans blood sugar all over the place :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Stop talking bollocks and admit that your favourite fighter got KTFO. All this bull**** coming from the same man that just tried to claim Haye got knocked down by Barrett too :lol::lol:
     
  11. djoc175

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    :rofl
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    Poor old Skull****...
     
  13. djoc175

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    They noted that he appeared to collapse during the bout, not from the effects of any blows, but rather from some other unknown cause


    :lol::lol::rofl
     
  14. Gesta

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    Hay like Ali lack class, Wlad has class in spades.

    The Klit's give boxing a good name and this is why they are boring?
     
  15. catasyou

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    Wlad's punch resistance wa sburied deep inside Oprah's ass.