Toney, LaMotta, Tiger, Hagler -which of these had the best chin?

Lamotta
Hagler
Tiger
Toney
I give Lamotta the edge over Hagler purely because he was less elusive than Hagler and took many big shots flush ,and from big hitting LHvy's like
Marshall and Satterfield.

 

Toney having proved his chin time and again all the way upto HW although he does have a better defense than all he still regularly took shots because he was too lazy to move. Those KDs he took were flash, a KD does not always indicate chin, it indicates balance. Could Hagler/Lamotta take shots from Rahman/Jirov/Jones Jr/Peter/Holyfield/Ruiz/Barkley??

Lamotta got ko'd a few times but probably had the worse defense, he also picked on WWs at MW so was always stronger than them and able to absorb their shots because of this, if he took the best punchers of his era like Burley, Moore, Charles he may well have been taken out at MW/LHW. I wouldnt rate him up with a Toney or Hagler. Haglers chin was bull like he could just bull through men, stronger chin than Lamotta. Tiger's I rank below all 3

 

BTW Chin is a bit of BS concept, so many factors are involved in taking a punch, most technique like chin tucking, defense, also stamina and survival skills.

LEts say if all these fighters don't tuck their chin, leave it out to dry, don't see the shots coming and take an onslaught off a huge puncher then all can be ko'd

 

Why are these names being singled out??? Haglar, LaMotta, Toney....etc..

Curious.

 

Don't under rate Dick Tiger as far as the best chin of the four goes. The only middleweight that I know of that dropped him was Griffith in their first fight. And then I don't know if that was even a legitimate knockdown as I recall. Most people thought that Tiger was robbed in the first Griffith fight. I think that everyone has the picture in their minds of Dick Tiger stretched out on his back after being KOed by Bob Foster. Also DePaula had him down a fight or two after that one. But this was also at lightheavyweight don't forget!! Plus Tiger was way past his prime by 1968. I can't see LaMotta,Hagler or Toney doing any better against Bob Foster. In fact if Foster had fought any of these three I can see them flattened in the same manner by his tremendous power if he hit them flush on the whiskers. So you could make a case for Tiger as having the best chin of these four fighters; especially at 160 lbs.

 

The Griffith knockdown was legit. Tiger was hit right with it, it happens...the decision was somewhat debatable, but the 9th round kd was on the level, and Tiger was up at "2" and almost went down again after that. As for DePaula and Foster...well these were two murderous punching LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHTS(!!!) Foster of course being the legendary one punch killer, and DePaula was a huge puncher, and Tiger was a natural middle, despite having successfully moving up in weight to beat Torres. I think I'd rate Tiger ahead of Toney by a gnat hair.

 

Honestly you have ur facts seriousely messed up. Lamotta took on the 3 biggest light-heavyweight punchers of his era while over the hill Nardico, Murphy, and Satterfield and took flush shots from each of them. Not to mention he the middleweight punchers he took on Robinson, Marshall , Cerdan huge hitters who couldnt floor him. lamotta took on all sizes. Marshall KNOCKED out ezzard charles, robinson was a much bigger puncher than burley at 160lb, and cerdan was just as lethal as a very green archie moore.


Honeslty i said this once ill say it again, lamotta in his prime could not be floored at 160lb no matter who it was...the man just couldnt be decked.

 

LaMotta who took light heavwyeight bombs Hagler never attempted ..

Hagler ...

Tiger ...

Toney ...

 

@ MW

1. LaMotta
2. Hagler
3. Tiger
4. Toney

 

LaMotta had the ability to catch a passing bus with his forehead... even if the bus was coming in the opposite direction, on a different highway, in another state, on the other side of the planet.. It would still slap Jakes head.

His ability to absorb punishment is incredible... yet idiots still argue about Ketchels toughness.. blah!

 

More BS spin Charles, Moore and Bivins were clearly clearly the best offensive MW-LHWs, Burley had the best accuracy and great power too. Marshall didnt rate Lamotta that highly and picked the other murderers row over him.

Cerdan and Robinson were WWs, Cerdan had a shoulder injury and Robinson KO'd Lamotta when he grew into the weight, still he wasnt a murderous puncher but very accurate. Nardico, Murphy, and Satterfield were all relatively unskilled.

Ofcourse Lamotta can be ko'd at MW and ofcourse he was, anyone can be ko'd at any moment by the right punch/punches, Lamotta included. Lamotta had a great chin, great stamina and new how to roll with the punches no doubt but lets not get carried away

 

You are fast becoming one of the worst posters on this entire forum.

 

ahhh i love new fans who know nothing about the sport prior to 2006

 

Who knocked Jake out???

In his prime.. without allagations of MOB involement??

 

No Lloyd Marshall was. He beat the ever loving dog**** out of charles at 160. I know you have this sickening mancrush on charley burley, but the guy was not as good as you think and nowhere near as good a puncher at 160 robinson is. Archie Moore? I have film of him vs richards in 1940, he had speed since he was young but he was nowhere near the defensive counterpunching and clever master he later became in the early 1950s. Robinson kayos the middleweight version of archie

I thought we were discussing lamottas CHIN not talent level? Besides just because Marshall said something doesnt mean its true

ps Marshall is better than burley

no they were middleweight champions

He didnt get his shoulder injury until the 2nd round when lamotta knocked him down. before that, cerdan tagged him with everything he had and lamotta took it without blinking.

Umm Robinson came nowhere near kayoing lamotta. in fact he never even FLOORED lamotta in that 1951 fight........and that was a FAR PAST HIS PRIME jake lamotta

Robinson Cerdan and Marshall were all murderous punchers at 160lb. ALL OF THEM could not floor jake lamotta

So was gerry cooney razor ruddock david tua etc doesnt mean they werent thunderous punchers....lamotta fought huge punchers at 175lb and took there best stuff

lamotta was never floored or kayoed at middleweight, ur wrong