Calzaghe or Roy Jones, Jr.

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Calzaghe boxed well but lacy just bulled forward loading up.... Completely the wrong tactics... Its just not as impressive as its made out t be.. Admittedly the crowd noise was loud. So that was good.

 

Joe had a much more solid career. He is the best super middleweight ever and linear 175. I think his career might be a bit workman like. He never lost, was the man in the divisions he fought, unified etc

On the flip side you might prefer RJJ jumping up and down in weight despite having some losses.

Personally, I think I prefer Calzaghes. For every impressive thing RJJ did there was a shadow of doubt i.e. amazing win at heavyweight but never fought Lewis. Amazing win over Hopkins and Toney but was never the man in the division.

 

i favour dariusz over roy at 175 as roy was gifted the vacated titles,DM earned them!

at SMW calzaghe was is and always will be the man.

its interesting how people whine about calzaghe and overated victories how about sparring with john ruiz for 12 rounds and passing it of as 1 of the greatest moments in boxing history while,pleaseeeeeeee...

 

this comment is why i have often called for the age limit of posters to be set at 12 and above,one is in the upmost turmoil as to wether to ridicule you or pity you following this little gem,and just goes to prove we should take you,your integrity,logic and complete dire lack of objectivity and boxing knowledge to the toilet and flush you down with the tampons.

toodlepip.

 

Seriously, Jeff???

At 160 he fought Hopkins but it was for a vacant belt and Hopkins is great in hindsight. RJJ isn't God to know X would become great. X would probably be considered the weakest. RJJ never unified.

Great win in Toney, I don't care if Toney can't handle his weight but again he never fought any of the other champs.

At 175 the Darius fight was never made.

Cruiserweight was totally skipped when there were really good champs there like Toney and Jirov.

At heavyweight he handpicked Ruiz and never fought the real man.

There were loads of good rivalries he never really went after i.e. Liles, Benn, Collins, Eubank, Darius etc

RJJ had the opponents available to make him the greatest of all time but the fights weren't made. Take someone like Franke Liles who he had an amateur rivalry with but it never happened in the pro's.

There are god knows how many fights that never happened. There are reasons for all of them, some pro Jones, some anti Jones but there are way too many fights to mention.

 

At 168:- Joe

P4P all time:- Jones

 

Roy Jones has won more world titles, at more weights and has a better resume that Calzaghe.

From 1993-2003 Jones was peerless. He is the first former Middleweight in over a century to move up and win a Heavyweight title. He was also the Undisputed Light-Heavyweight Champion, and was very much 'the man' in almost every division he fought in. Not to mention him being the best pound-for-pound Fighter of the 1990's.

And you wan't to penalize Jones for NOT fighting Lennox Lewis atsch
Really reaching with that one.

You think Calzaghe winning a WBO title and defending it for most of of his career against a laughable collection of opponents, taking a decade to unify a shallow division, then losing to Hopkins, beating a shot-to-**** legend and then ****ing off into retirment is in anyway comprable to what Roy Jones achieved?

Gimme a break. :-(

 

Calzaghe lost to Hopkins:think

All i saw was one fighter trying to make a fight and the other holding him like a fat kid with a chocolate bar:yep

 

All I saw was one guy waving his arms, slapping the other guys ear and gloves, and then embarasingly pretending to dry hump his opponent, who himself was landing the cleaner, harder and more accurate punches.

Anyway, even if Calzaghe had KO'd B-Hop, Jones Jr would still be the much better fighter, with the much better career. Anyone arguing the opposite clearly doesn't have a very good grasp on reality.

 

without actually fighting the topdog in each of those respective divisions,thats quite an achievement,he has you fooled anywayt!

benn,eubank,mclellan,dariusz m,steve collins,prime calzaghe etc etc!!!!!

give me a fecking break y tool,a green hopkins,overrated fatass toney,and john ruiz i say again john ruiz!!hahahahaha

calzaghe is far from perfect but ****off with the jones was the best thing since sliced bread ****,johnson and tarver would have ben boxed silly by calzaghe.enough with the hopkins **** too,no way the excon won that fight no way,it was a laughable display,at least calzaghe actually pushed the fight.

 

I'm embarassed on your behalf.

You might want to consider taking one of those adult literacy courses.

 

Im not saying Calzaghe was better than Jones but i believe he won the fight with Bernard, Hopkins imo wasnt active enough to earn the win. I thought he went there to steal the decision.

And the people who bought into this 'new' Hopkins since the Pavlik fight are underating Calzaghe whilst at the same time they had vastly overated Pavlik.

There was a reason why Hopkins didnt throw more punches and was more aggresive and that is because of Joe.

But i agree that Hopkins landed the cleaner punches, its just he didnt work hard enough to get the verdict imo.

 

You think that calling yourself 'socrates' and having Karate kid as your avatar is going to add weight to your argument that Calzaghe is better then Jones? Based on what... beating grandpa jones? Beating Euro hypejob Kessler, being awarded a **** poor decision on the back of a crap prformance against Hopkins? And I suppose Michelzewki's up and downer with Montell Griffin persuaded you he'd have too much for Jones... Your speaking tit. So take your Karate kid 3 AVA and **** off back to the general. Bonsai.

 

Would Jones have lost too anyone on Calzaghes resume at the time Calzaghe fought them?

Would he have gone tooth and nail with Hopkins and Reid.

The end.

 

I think everyone's opinions about that fight are basically set in stone now. I don't mind if people believe Calzaghe won the fight. I just happen to think differently, because I believe cleaner, more accurate and effective punching is more important than a fighter basically moving his arms a lot. Maybe a draw would have been the most correct result :think

Either way, a split decision over a 43 year old Hopkins is not enough to tip the balance of the scales in Calzaghe's favour in any Jones/Calzaghe comparisons.