pacmans achievment if he wins

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  1. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i think hatton wins this..

    but..

    if pac does win this, against what is effectively a legitimate world light welter champ...what in the history of boxing can we compare that feat to ?

    going from being a world flyweight champion 11 years ago to winning a world title {ring title/world title} at a 25% bigger weight..7 weight divisions above his first world title.

    thats more weight divisions jumped than duran / leonard / hearns / delahoya / roy jones / mayweather / armstrong...
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yep, it'll be some achievement.
     
  3. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Definately a achievement, but if hatton wins people will be knocking hatton for winning.
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    and after Hatton it will probably be Cotto for the WW title.

    i think Cotto destroys him but we never know.
     
  5. SHOWSHOOTER

    SHOWSHOOTER Active Member Full Member

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    manny deserves massive credit if he beats hatton at 140 . . . massive credit.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    surely a massive credit but if pac makes this as easily as the oscar fight, people would probably discredit it again saying stuffs like hatton is past it, etc, etc.
     
  7. Blue_Ray

    Blue_Ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As early as now, I'll say Hatton is shot. He is past his prime like Morales. He's not the Hatton we used to love. He was destroyed by Floyd. He's a fraud champ. Floyd Sr. is no good trainer and lousy poet.













    Just giving Pac haters the ammunition they need in the eventuality of a Pac's victory.
     
  8. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    right because only haters think Morales (3rd) and DLH were shot. We all know they were in their prime. :verysad
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    nope. only haters would pick oscar in the fight and say he was weight-drained and/or shot afterwards wise guy.
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Pacquiao's Achilles heel has always been the bum rush. If he can overcome the best bum rusher in the business; a naturally bigger man, and all around murderous threat in Ricky Hatton, it's just ****ing massive for Manny Pacquiao. There could never be evidence more clear and more emphatic of Manny's transition from one handed, one dimensional, sprint piston puncher, to dynamic, multi dimensional, master technician, and all around boxing dynamo.

    To beat Hatton you have no choice but to do it in style. Hatton makes you fight to say the least, and if Pacquiao pulls it off he's putting himself right near the summit of Mount Olympus. The fans that don't think much of Ricky Hatton won't need to give Manny their approval, the physical details of the encounter will tell the story, and seal the man's status as an unrivaled modern era legend beyond any question or doubt.
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Comon man Pac's achilles heel is the counter right hand. Thats what Morales used and thats what MArquez used. Fighters who can control the distance, avoid Pac's combinations, and come back with a strong right hand.

    Fights who come forward are a dream for Pac because he is so shifty. Hatton won't know where the left hand is coming from.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if he wins, he would be the best 140 pounder in this decade
     
  13. P4PNo.1

    P4PNo.1 Active Member Full Member

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    He'd have to get massive credit. To step up and beat the No.1 LW in the world would be some win.
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    So then Hatton's achilles heel would be the counter rear hand power shot as well then right? ^ You've just said it here... And Joe Calzaghe and Miguel Cotto as well - not to mention every other aggressive come forward fighter - yeah?? :rofl Notice a pattern? Fighters who come forward are a dream for EVERYONE if they have a reasonable amount of counterpunching skills.

    Son, you don't know the difference between an Achilles heel and a fundamental built in tactical liability.
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    :lol: don't take it personal, no need to get all flustered.

    Joe Calzaghe as an agressive southpaw who opens himself up when he punches (kind of like Pac) is indeed a sucker for the counter right hand as showed by Hopkins and Jones. Hatton is not a sucker for the counter right hand. Neither is Cotto. When have I said that?

    If Hatton leans too much into his jab then yea, he can get caught with a counter hook (a punch Pac is very good at) but Hatton throws a nice, stiff that will be hard to hook over. I can see Pac ducking under it and maybe landing to the body or spinning out.