My Top 10 "Truths" and "Frauds" in boxing today...

scilent assasin · Apr 27, 2009

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1.) Juan Manuel Marquez - Imagine if he wasn't robbed against Pacquiao and was actually given the decision; Marquez is the real people's champion after schooling Manny last year 115-112

2.) Juan Manuel Lopez - The next big star in boxing. Juanma will be the best pound-for-pound fighter in 5 years

3.) Victor Ortiz - One of my favorite prospects; he's destroying solid contenders at 140 and making it look easy. He would **** Amir Khan if given the opportunity

4.) Edwin Valero - Not as one dimensional as people think; Valero has good footwork, concussive power, and underrated boxing ability. He's the real deal and he would crush Prescott in less than 2 rounds

5.) Paul Williams - No explanation needed; Paul Williams is the truth

6.) Roman Gonzalez - Looked shaky in his last fight, but he's going to be ruling the flyweight division and down for the next few years. Tremendous power and throws very fluid combinations

7.) Yuriorkis Gamboa - Yeah, he's got some flaws defensively, but so far he's faced some pretty decent guys so far and no one's come close to posing a challenge. Gamboa is arguably the most exciting fighter in boxing

8.) Victor Zaleta - He's fought less than 10 times and yet he holds wins over 2 former world title holders. And he's fighting his way up the hard way, in Mexico.

9.) Nonito Donaire - In the context of what Darchinyan has achieved so far, Donaire should receive serious pound-for-pound consideration since he made Vic call him daddy

10.) Hozumi Hasegawa - Highly skilled Japanese fighter who the mainstream boxing public needs to be introduced to. He's relatively young at 28, but he only has 4-5 prime years left in his career so it's time for him to step up now

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1.) Waldo Klitschko - Klitschko used to be one of my favorite fighters to watch when he was actually exciting, but recently all he's done is hug, grab, hold, and jab to boring victories. Hopefully Haye knocks Klitschko back to Kiev in June

2.) Kelly Pavlik - There was once a time when the middleweight champion of the world actually defended his title against decent opposition... and that time was when Jermain Taylor ruled the division. Pavlik's first 3 defenses: Lockett, Rubio, Mora... Absolutely pathetic

3.) Kermit Cintron - I can't stand this guy. All he does is cry after he loses and he looked like crap against Martinez with all the holding not to mention he was lucky to salvage a draw

4.) Amir Khan - Typical overhyped prospect with no chin. Valero starches him in less than 30 seconds

5.) Tyson Fury - He's big, clumsy, and will achieve nothing in his career

6.) Zsolt Erdei - I can't wait until this guy loses. He's holding the lineal championship hostage in Germany

7.) Vitlay Klitschko - He's a known quitter and cheater and somehow some fans still treat him like he's the savior of boxing. I don't quite understand it.

8.) Deontay Wilder - Only 3 pro fights so far, but he's going to go nowhere in boxing. His balance is absolutely terrible and he leaves himself exposed. Against even semi-decent opponents, Wilder is going to get starched a la Waldo Klitschko

9.) Daniel Santos - So much talent, and yet he elects to fight once every 18 months; absolutely pathetic

10.) Brian Viloria - Don't let his recent win over Solis fool you... Viloria isn't that good. He's one of the most inconsistent boxers out there.

There you have it, folks!
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ortiz has fought bums himself and not in a blue moon do i think he will beat khan infact khans knocked him out in the amatuers so i think its your boys chin you should be worred about

littlefloyd · Apr 27, 2009

dawson needs to be in the list..he'd be the no.1 truth for sure

Arran · Apr 27, 2009

Gamboa needs to be removed, he's easily interchangeable with Khan.

Beeston Brawler · Apr 27, 2009

Carl Froch needs to be in the top 10 truths

Circa · Apr 27, 2009

115 - 112 schooling?:huh:huh:huh

asero · Apr 27, 2009

vitalai and santos are for real...for me, they are the best in their division

im not sold on roman gonzales

pavlik and hasegawa are in the same mold...both a great in their division but they can be beaten

asero · Apr 27, 2009

truth: Pac is JMM's first option and JMM is pac's nth option

Beeston Brawler · Apr 27, 2009

Asero wants to be in the fraud's section.

Constant trolling on Pac!

Kid Cuba · Apr 27, 2009

Rui said: ↑

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1.) Juan Manuel Marquez - Imagine if he wasn't robbed against Pacquiao and was actually given the decision; Marquez is the real people's champion after schooling Manny last year 115-112

2.) Juan Manuel Lopez - The next big star in boxing. Juanma will be the best pound-for-pound fighter in 5 years

3.) Victor Ortiz - One of my favorite prospects; he's destroying solid contenders at 140 and making it look easy. He would **** Amir Khan if given the opportunity

4.) Edwin Valero - Not as one dimensional as people think; Valero has good footwork, concussive power, and underrated boxing ability. He's the real deal and he would crush Prescott in less than 2 rounds

5.) Paul Williams - No explanation needed; Paul Williams is the truth

6.) Roman Gonzalez - Looked shaky in his last fight, but he's going to be ruling the flyweight division and down for the next few years. Tremendous power and throws very fluid combinations

7.) Yuriorkis Gamboa - Yeah, he's got some flaws defensively, but so far he's faced some pretty decent guys so far and no one's come close to posing a challenge. Gamboa is arguably the most exciting fighter in boxing

8.) Victor Zaleta - He's fought less than 10 times and yet he holds wins over 2 former world title holders. And he's fighting his way up the hard way, in Mexico.

9.) Nonito Donaire - In the context of what Darchinyan has achieved so far, Donaire should receive serious pound-for-pound consideration since he made Vic call him daddy

10.) Hozumi Hasegawa - Highly skilled Japanese fighter who the mainstream boxing public needs to be introduced to. He's relatively young at 28, but he only has 4-5 prime years left in his career so it's time for him to step up now

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1.) Waldo Klitschko - Klitschko used to be one of my favorite fighters to watch when he was actually exciting, but recently all he's done is hug, grab, hold, and jab to boring victories. Hopefully Haye knocks Klitschko back to Kiev in June

2.) Kelly Pavlik - There was once a time when the middleweight champion of the world actually defended his title against decent opposition... and that time was when Jermain Taylor ruled the division. Pavlik's first 3 defenses: Lockett, Rubio, Mora... Absolutely pathetic

3.) Kermit Cintron - I can't stand this guy. All he does is cry after he loses and he looked like crap against Martinez with all the holding not to mention he was lucky to salvage a draw

4.) Amir Khan - Typical overhyped prospect with no chin. Valero starches him in less than 30 seconds

5.) Tyson Fury - He's big, clumsy, and will achieve nothing in his career

6.) Zsolt Erdei - I can't wait until this guy loses. He's holding the lineal championship hostage in Germany

7.) Vitlay Klitschko - He's a known quitter and cheater and somehow some fans still treat him like he's the savior of boxing. I don't quite understand it.

8.) Deontay Wilder - Only 3 pro fights so far, but he's going to go nowhere in boxing. His balance is absolutely terrible and he leaves himself exposed. Against even semi-decent opponents, Wilder is going to get starched a la Waldo Klitschko

9.) Daniel Santos - So much talent, and yet he elects to fight once every 18 months; absolutely pathetic

10.) Brian Viloria - Don't let his recent win over Solis fool you... Viloria isn't that good. He's one of the most inconsistent boxers out there.

There you have it, folks!
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Nice list, I would'nt call Wilder or Santos frauds, Wilder is still starting out and Santos is hardly a fraud, but it is sad that he rarely wants to fight. And IMHO Khan beats Ortiz.

NALLEGE · Apr 27, 2009

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1.) Juan Manuel Marquez - Imagine if he wasn't robbed against Pacquiao and was actually given the decision; Marquez is the real people's champion after schooling Manny last year 115-112

2.) Juan Manuel Lopez - The next big star in boxing. Juanma will be the best pound-for-pound fighter in 5 years

3.) Victor Ortiz - One of my favorite prospects; he's destroying solid contenders at 140 and making it look easy. He would **** Amir Khan if given the opportunity

4.) Edwin Valero - Not as one dimensional as people think; Valero has good footwork, concussive power, and underrated boxing ability. He's the real deal and he would crush Prescott in less than 2 rounds

5.) Paul Williams - No explanation needed; Paul Williams is the truth

6.) Roman Gonzalez - Looked shaky in his last fight, but he's going to be ruling the flyweight division and down for the next few years. Tremendous power and throws very fluid combinations

7.) Yuriorkis Gamboa - Yeah, he's got some flaws defensively, but so far he's faced some pretty decent guys so far and no one's come close to posing a challenge. Gamboa is arguably the most exciting fighter in boxing

8.) Victor Zaleta - He's fought less than 10 times and yet he holds wins over 2 former world title holders. And he's fighting his way up the hard way, in Mexico.

9.) Nonito Donaire - In the context of what Darchinyan has achieved so far, Donaire should receive serious pound-for-pound consideration since he made Vic call him daddy

10.) Hozumi Hasegawa - Highly skilled Japanese fighter who the mainstream boxing public needs to be introduced to. He's relatively young at 28, but he only has 4-5 prime years left in his career so it's time for him to step up now

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1.) Waldo Klitschko - Klitschko used to be one of my favorite fighters to watch when he was actually exciting, but recently all he's done is hug, grab, hold, and jab to boring victories. Hopefully Haye knocks Klitschko back to Kiev in June

2.) Kelly Pavlik - There was once a time when the middleweight champion of the world actually defended his title against decent opposition... and that time was when Jermain Taylor ruled the division. Pavlik's first 3 defenses: Lockett, Rubio, Mora... Absolutely pathetic

3.) Kermit Cintron - I can't stand this guy. All he does is cry after he loses and he looked like crap against Martinez with all the holding not to mention he was lucky to salvage a draw

4.) Amir Khan - Typical overhyped prospect with no chin. Valero starches him in less than 30 seconds

5.) Tyson Fury - He's big, clumsy, and will achieve nothing in his career

6.) Zsolt Erdei - I can't wait until this guy loses. He's holding the lineal championship hostage in Germany

7.) Vitlay Klitschko - He's a known quitter and cheater and somehow some fans still treat him like he's the savior of boxing. I don't quite understand it.

8.) Deontay Wilder - Only 3 pro fights so far, but he's going to go nowhere in boxing. His balance is absolutely terrible and he leaves himself exposed. Against even semi-decent opponents, Wilder is going to get starched a la Waldo Klitschko

9.) Daniel Santos - So much talent, and yet he elects to fight once every 18 months; absolutely pathetic

10.) Brian Viloria - Don't let his recent win over Solis fool you... Viloria isn't that good. He's one of the most inconsistent boxers out there.

There you have it, folks!
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Love the thread. Stir it up Rui lol...

socrates · Apr 27, 2009

"We are taking this very seriously."

honest!

Haye · Apr 27, 2009

Is it possible for fighters to be something in between a fraud and the truth on this site?

tysonlewisbook · Apr 27, 2009

hey Rui would you call Ali a known quitter for quitting vs. Holmes? Or Frazier a quitter for Manila? Or Liston a known quitter for quitting vs. Clay?

Be consistent son.

Jeff M · Apr 27, 2009

You got Valero as a truth! I see you know something then!

:good

asero · Apr 27, 2009

i just realized last night that after watching the diaz-jmm fight again that valero would beat diaz

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