Floyd Patterson: Bad Back or Bullcrap?

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Folks,

    I just finished reviewing "Ali-Patterson 1" from '65 a little earlier today. Early on it was obvious to me that Ali was too big and skilled for the 30 year old Floyd Patterson.. By the middle rds., Patterson complained to his corner about his back bothering him... In the later rds his cornerman even lifted him up to try and stretch out the cramp / pain between rds......

    Q: Was Floyd's back really injured / hurt, or was Floyd trying to devise an excuse in a losing battle with Muhammad Ali??? Floyd Patterson looked ripped and in great shape for Ali, but he was being punished and battered by Ali throughout......... Any thoughts??
    :huh:shock::|:nono:bbb

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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    that style Cus taught was not for longevity. I believe him. The training Patterson and Tyson went through was brutal. Remember the original plan was for Mike to fight 10 years and retire and beat Marciano's record because that style of fighting was brutal on the body.
     
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  3. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spinal.
     
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  4. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing about Floyd Patterson was bullcrap he was class all the way.
     
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  5. Stoic

    Stoic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It had to be a bad back-Floyd never used excuses. It probably contributed largely to his loss against the then big mouth Ali/Clay.
    I say "then" because I think Ali toned down his antics late 70's.
    I blame the media for airing him too much and esp.--RIP-- Howard Cosell.
     
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  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Guys,

    I hear that rap... I do..... BUT! Fact was, F.P. was eatin' lotsa' leather by Ali in the fight of '65..... Was it even remotely possible that Floyd was afraid that Clay / Ali was gonna park him like a Cadillac, so Floyd tried to save face by claiming a bad back??? F.P. never had that problem again...... Fishy...... But I do agree that Floyd Patterson was a class act.....

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  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    classic section dude
     
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  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he had real problems with his back. If not then he put on a great act.

    Floyd Patterson heavily criticized Liston's decision to retire with an injured shoulder, he called it an excuse for Liston to get out of the fight. True to his word he fought on with an injured back even though he was being battered against Ali.

    He went onto say after the fight that Ali would have beaten him that night even if he had not injured his back.

    I don't see any point in putting on an act like that if he was not going to use it as an excuse for losing.
     
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  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Deep down, I know that...... But I went with the general forum section to get more hits...... However, you are correct.......:D

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  10. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good feedback, bro....... Liston is another "Iffy" scenario...... Was the shoulder incident true or false? It may have been a ploy as well.?.?.?:huh

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  11. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shoulder or not, most fighters fought on worse than Liston.

    I belive Patterson's story. Now I not saying Patterson coming in with a good back would change the out come, but Patterson's peak a boo style was never good for the back. Ask Marciano lol.
     
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  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    has as been said on here,all of the shorter heavies like marciano,frazier and floyd,suffered from bad backs.
    it wouldn't have helped that ali would've been leaning on him whist floyd was trying to get out of his crouch to punch.quit,no way
     
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  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed!!
     
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  14. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    It wasnt an excuse, he had a bad back. Not saying he was going to win with a good back but the guy tried for years for a rematch and when he finally got one he was WAY more competetive and that was when he was absolutely ancient.
     
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  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    the d'mato style is going to give you a bad back so against Ali Floyd had a bad back

    but a real stiff jab can hurt your back aswell and gues what Ali was doing in that fight

    so its a mixture of reasons
     
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