does taylor have no heart??

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  1. Flea Man

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    Lol. I clearly ain't trying to upset you (who gets upset on a Forum anyways) so your sarcasm doesn't phase me. The fact of the matter is, until you show knowledge of boxing, the respected and tested posters will just flame you.

    What's the point of coming on here to voice your opinion if no one bothers to read it????
     
  2. ron u.k.

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    How can you say he has no heart? If he has stamina issues then that's a physical and conditioning thing it's got nothing to do with not having a heart. Actually i think for the most part Taylor fought very well a lot of the time in there he was outclassing Froch,was much the better fighter.Froch didn't really hurt Taylor until the last round,up till then Taylor had taken Frochs punches extremely well.I just don't know how you can equate a guy getting tagged and stopped in the last minute of a fight he was winning, with having no heart. Taylor if anything tried to engage Froch in the last couple of rounds when he probably would have been justified in getting on his bike.He probably showed too much heart.
     
  3. tommyboa78

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    Look mate this is a forum for discussion. People have the freedom to read what they want. Since i don't know any of them why should i care what they think. the whole point is discussing ur differences of opinion isn't it. Any way if u really want to find out how good ur so called knowledge is why don't u post a thread with ur last comparison of Khan and Holt and Miranda and Kessler and see what everyone else thinks!

    Or are u afraid to find out the truth!
     
  4. Flea Man

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    What, you thinkl someone who has more K.O's on their record is automatically a bigger puncher than someone with less, not taking into account the competition faced etc etc etc

    I think Kessler is a better puncher than Miranda, I never disputed that!
     
  5. tommyboa78

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    so post the thread buddy!

    Your beginning to wobble!

    LMAO
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Besides, some of Kessler's K.O's come from his tenure at 154 and 160.

    Does that mean he is invalid for a shout as best SMW puncher? Like you discounted Miranda?
     
  7. Flea Man

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    It's on the general at the moment. Best Puncher at 168 or something like that, click on the number next to Kessler's name and you will see who has voted for him.

    I never wobble, ask anyone
     
  8. tommyboa78

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    AAH at last a discussion about boxing.

    Yeh i'm discounting Miranda cos Kessler is a big SMW and Miranda was a good puncher at MW but no that good.
     
  9. superfly98

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    DOnt think he has a heart issue the final round he showed his heart. He went down quite hard...still got up and even tried to rally against froch. Froch is probably the hardest hitter Taylor has faced. I personally think he's still carrying scars from the Pavlik fight and other mental issues that were not aware of. Since he hooked up with manny. Taylor's been ridicolous tense in the ring for a pro. He must burn up so much energy. His corner between rounds were even telling him to calm down. I wander whats causing this? Maybe his head aint in boxing no more? Maybe he doesnt have the self belief. A boxers mentalitly i personally believe is key factor in winning

    In the post fight interview he did mention pavlik. I think it was to soon for taylor to fight froch. I think he should of waited 2/3 fights before fighting somone of the calibre of froch. His managerial team really underestimated froch...similar to the way the underestimated Pavlik. Now im not sure he can recover at the age of 30 especially with the amount of tough fights he's had.

    I know one thing he aint gettin much sleep this year. The poor guys not lonly gonna be having nightmares bout pavlik but carl froch
     
  10. tommyboa78

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    You're backtracking! you attacked my knowledge of boxing, so lets find out. Post the thread buddy! The Best 168 puncher is not the same as the rediculous comparison u made earlier.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Fair enough. Which of Kessler's K.O's ranks over the Froch stoppage of Taylor? Of Andrade's near-stoppage of Bute? Haussler? Beyer?

    I think Kessler, just wondering how much you know? (no looking at Boxrec please)
     
  12. tommyboa78

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    I'm confused we were tallkin about Miranda and now you've switched to Froch and Andrade! Sit still!

    I think i cussed Boo cos he said Miranda and cos u joined in i thought u felt the same way. We both agree Kessler.

    Well i'd say Beyer!
    It wasn't an exhausted KO it was early and flush with one shot not an accumulaion!
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Are you ******ed?

    I was just saying, just because someone has more K.O's numerically it does not make them the better puncher. Khan ahs more K.O's than Holt, but Holt is twice the puncher he is.

    That's all, maybe you didn't understand.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I've read your comment, looks like we've both crossed wires.

    Sorry, still, your criticism of Boo was unfair.
     
  15. doubleplaidinum

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    co-sign. taylor has the heart of a champion. the guy doesnt stop until he's out cold. he's got stamina issues and that's about it. all the heart in the world can't help you if you can barely stand and can't hold your hands up.