Fighters you think took a personal dive.

Ya Im sure that FLUSH right hand marciano hit walcott sqaure on the jaw with in slow motion replay didnt have anything to do with it.


You know SusieQ will always try to find a excuse for Marciano. Walcott clearly took a dive. He waited till the ref counted to 10 then got right up.

 

Was Fleischer actually the timekeeper? I always thought he was just ringside and told Walcott Liston was out. I know they start fighting again when Walcott turns away, Liston still looks a bit shaky when they do

 

Like you said, he had nothing left to give. He was old, and had just gone through the most bruising battle of his entire career. Why not stay down for the count?

 

Rocky punched Walcott, Walcott went down and decided not to get up even though he probably could have. The knockdown was legit, but I don't give Marciano all that much credit for the win.

 

Walcott claimed that the referee's count was too fast.

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yeah that was disgusting.. ive got no doubt he could have continued.
he looked like he might as well have been reading a book in the corner.
they disrespected the paying audience.
but the sad part is he was actually doing quite well in the fight.

 

Sharkey against Carnera.
Both the Stribling Carnera fights were intentional foul -outs.
Douglas v Holyfield
Seldon v Tyson

 

Leonard Duran II. Duran was never hurt and was barely behind on points. Stomach cramps or mocking given as reasons, really?

 

thats a brutal KO no way a dive

thats definitly a dive ( i know someone posted this earlier but i forgot to quote it and coulnt be bothered going back to get it but found this one)

he decided to take the sit out which is a personal dive, he could have continued but he would have been stopped IMO he had no reason to continue he had proven himself and he knew then he couldnt beat Pryor and thought to stop before ether of them get hurt as it was a brutal 2 fights

Pryor won a great fight that night i am not taking anything away from
him

Fleisher was just keeping time he wasnt the officail time keeper he just told Walcott he was down for more than 10 seconds, as you seee Walcott turn and look at him as the fighting continues

good one i think he was just frustrated by Leonard and at that point in his mind it was the most macho thing he could do

 

calm down buddy ... nobody is making fun of your ****ing hero rocky ...

it was something i read once that had to do with the sonny liston ali 2 fight ... talking about how fighters get older .. and just go down rather then get embarressed and beat up again ... and the wallcot fight was mentioned ...

learn how to use title bout simulator without getting all confused before you come argueing with me

 

I was at the Norris fight and had been around him for years.... the injury was honestly legit, he had a long history of knee problems, his loss to TNT Tubbs was because of a similar injury a few years prior.. Norris twisted his knee slipping on canvas , and it never corrected itself.. Mike hit Orlin as he was kneeling and turned his knee as he fell forward.. i saw him in dressing room , he was in agony and was in great shape for Tyson too.. That was not a fake although i see why u may have thought it.. Orlin did have a chronic knee problem and it occurred in 3 of his biggest fights..

 

Fleischer was sitting next to the timekeeper, he had NO official role in the fight ,he just drew Walcott's attention tot he fact that the timekeeper had counted past ten over Liston.Walcott, prior to the fight neglected to ascertain where the timekeeper was sitting,got caught up in trying to get Clay/Ali to a neutral corner and lost all track of the count, in short he blew it.Liston claimed he could have gotten up in time but was waiting for Walcott to remove Clay from his near vicinity,so he could get up without being exposed to another shot ala Dempsey fashion.

 

how can you say that by standing toe to toe Etienne threw the fight to Tyson?? Thats how Etienne fought? Have you ever seen any of his fights other than Tyson? The guy wasnt a cutie or a boxer he was a charge forward pressure fighter who tried to bull guys into the ropes and corners and land tons of punches. He wasnt a big banger and had a weak chin. In short he was a tailor made for Tyson. The only fix was made when they got him to sign his name to the contract. After that it was all Tyson based strictly on styles not shady back room dealings of which you have NO proof...

 

BTW you keep saying that Etienne/Tyson was to set up the Lewis match. Tyson and Lewis fought BEFORE the Etienne fight...

 

Etienne vs. Tyson was not a dive.

That hard right hand that Tyson threw landed flush on Etienne's chin.

Etienne did not take a dive, he's just felt Tyson's power and thought to himself "Enough of this".