What Are the 5 best Woulda Shoulda fights that Coulda but weren't ?

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard-Cuevas was ready to go.....but Ray walked.
     
  2. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stevenson vs Ali
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Dempsey - Wills

    Dempsey - Greb

    Greb - Langford

    Johnson - Langford 2

    McCallum - Leonard

    Bowe - Lewis

    Holmes - Foreman

    Tunney - Sharkey

    Sullivan - Jackson

    Tunney - Norfalk
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    some great suggestions in this thread....If I may I would love to include Archie Moore vs Jersey Joe Walcott.. These men fought EVERYONE of the era except eachother!
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good thought...I think I go with JJW but Archie beat some good Heavy's...tough one
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I go with Dempsey/Wills Tunney/Sharkey Lewis/Bowe Holmes/WeaverII Holmes/Page Holmes/Thomas Holmes/Tate Holmes/Dokes and an interesting encounter with Holmes/Gerrie Coetzee
     
  8. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garcia was considered a pretty damn big puncher. By all accounts, he was very impressive against Apostoli, and many people considered him the unofficial best fighter in the division at the time he defended against Armstrong.

    It's possible Hostak might've been too big and powerful for him, but if he could survive the early rounds, it's possible he might've been too strong for Hostak over the late going.


    This was from a NY Times report on the Garcia-Apostoli fight:

    "The only complaint with his[Garcia's] station is its controversial condition. He has not undisputed possession of the crown once worn by Stanley Ketchel. Al Hostak of Seattle is recognized as champion by the National Boxing Association and it will take a battle between the two to decide the question beyond dispute - if Hostak can be dragged into a ring with the fighting demon who toppled Apostoli.
    But those who saw Garcia score this victory are satisfied he is the champion. For Garcia embodies everything that goes to make a titleholder, notwithstanding his long years of ring service and his 29 years of age.
    He is strong. He can box. He can punch. He can absorb punishment. He can adjust himself to ring situations as they develop, is resourceful, alert, cool under fire, a perfect fury when the tide swings his way."
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Armstrong was amazing against Ceferino Garcia from the highlights i saw. He was mothering Garcias attacks by mving forward and landing his own but was then pushing around Garcia.

    Was the draw a disputed desicion around the time
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no,i don't think rocky ducked valdez,but after beating charles for the second time,cockell and valdez were next up.
    al vile clearly didn't want valdez so it didn't happen
     
  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good

    you've got a point there.what a fight that would have been.between them they must have known every trick there is
     
  12. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great pics,

    id like to add-

    quartey vs trinidad
    mosley vs trinidad
    toney vs hopkins
    cuevas vs palomino
    tapia vs johnson
    norton vs frazier
    mcguigan vs fenech
    mcguigan vs nelson
    (kevin) kelly vs (junior)jones
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I never really thought of that!
    I suppose their careers did overlap ,but Moore was rather lighter when Joe was in his prime, interesting idea!
     
  14. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Johnson - Langford II sounds perfect. I believe the National Sporting Club in London had loaned Johnson the money to further his quest for the H/W title, on proviso he returned to England and faced Langford as challenger.

    Johnson failed to do it.
    Does this ring true??
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the reply/report.
    It gives insight to what kind of fighter Garcia was considered to be. I've only seen a brief clip of Hostak/Zale years ago. Hostak looked very aggressive against the man (in his prime) who ruined people that came into him generally.
    This fight would have been a war. I won't hazzard a guess (yet). I will say that Armstrong's winning (by all counts, except the cards) stand against Garcia underlines his greatness. Armstrong was something!!! Amazing fighter.