Underrated Parts Of Fighters Arsenals

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've always been amazned by Renaldo Snipe's straight right hand. That thing was unbelievable.

    Even looking past what he did to Holmes with it, he had the near iron chinned Berbick down in the first with it... And from that round in almost every time he landed it solidly he had Berbick in trouble.

    So, what have you got?
     
  2. albinored

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    ....joe lous' left hook. not thrown in a wide ark like that of frazier or galento, it was almost a straight punch, usually coming off a jab. it was a knockout punch, and if the first one didn't get you the instant followups did. as late as the second walcott fight he still had it and landed three left hooks on walcott on the way to his kayo wiin.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    Oscar De La Hoya's body attack.

    His left jab and left hook garnered most of the attention, but for the majority of his career, he was an effective body-puncher as well.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's body attack as well.

    Julio Cesar Chavez's slipping/rolling abilties.

    Marvin Hagler's parrying/slipping abilities.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    duran at slipping puches,hearns apart,was brilliant ,he'd pull his head back and then inside or round the punch.
    obviously when he tried it with tommy he was still miles away and still in range of tommy's right hand:fire
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    it is quite good but he never sustained it alot, i like Mayweathers jab he used it alot in the SFW,LW but stopped using it so much at LWW and WW.
    He used to double and triple it up but didnt really use it as a weapon though
     
  6. Bigcat

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    Michael Moorers Jab.. It was fast , and snappy, it had enough power to rock you back and set you up for a straight left or a hook... Mike also doubled it up or even threw three in a row..
     
  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Straight from the shoulder and straight as an arrow. Non-telegraphed jab. The other thing he did was to feint guys and then throw that jab at the exact millisecond so it landed. and he used a lot of upper body movement and fired it off from different positions. The other guy that did that was Michalczewski.

    And both those guys threw jolting type jabs. Very very difficult to deal with and even try slipping. Plus, they had the tools to hook off the jab and not telegraph that either. It must've been a nightmare for opposing trainers getting their guy to get ready to try and deal with that weapon. Like just what was the corner for Ramzi Hassan going to do to deal with that jab in pre-fight preperations?
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    It was pretty on and off when he used the jab at the higher weights. When he did use it in the 9th round against Hatton, it was a thing of beauty, but he wasn't as consistent using it as he had been. Against DLH, he used it effectively downstairs to set up the straight right hand to the head, but wasn't really getting the jab going to DLH's face.

    His best jabbing performance might've been the Sosa fight. He jabbed him silly.
     
  9. Bigcat

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    Merqui Sosas power...... he had so much natural power....

    he stood awkwardly , his defence was a bit sloppy but my god , when he let leather go , he was terrible , an absolute power demon.......
     
  10. flamengo

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    Harry Grebs balance, placement and power... lol Jokin.

    Seriously, the success after success of SRR's rip, rip, hook, straight right and hook if needed.

    Its a patented combo.. especially the 2 rips and hook.
     
  11. Bigcat

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    Riddick Bowes punch resistance, he could absorb a lot of solid shots and even climb up off the floor after hard knockdowns , very much like Larry Holmes used to.. Bowe was slammed upside the head in those Holyfield fights a zillion times and by Golota too, he took solid shots from every hard hitting guy out there and never did get shook that badly.. I think the worse i saw was when Golots had him down but even then i think a great part of that was a dramatic weight drain from overtraining too late and trying to look cut rather than feel good in himself, Bowe was harrassed by everyone for years to get himself in shape and when he did it was all a very fast weight loss that nearly cost him his second only loss.............. remember Bowe lost only 1 fight as a pro and it was to Evander and that was in a split decision.. he had a great career.........
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    as he got bigger he did use the jab on and off as you say but he never really used it enough in the first place he didnt regard his jab as a weapon.

    against Hatton he was palying with him ntil the 9th and 10th and his skills were great then he did the same to Oscar in the 12th aswell

    agaisnt Oscar he didnt really get his jab going using it more as a range finder and a distraction more than anything

    as for the Sosa fight i actually think if it wasnt for his jab he would have lost as Sosa was giving him some problems early (in fact i think if you want to find out how to beat PBF you watch this fight)
     
  13. leverage

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    joe fraziers defensive abilities. I think that frazier just didn't mind taking punches that he could have avoided, it was just hie style. He also had a good jab when he used it. Check out the first quarry fight.
     
  14. Duodenum

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    Vito Antuofermo was acknowledged during his career as being a vastly underrated defensive fighter. LaMotta and Chuvalo also deserve some mention here. (The fact that they still have all their marbles today bears testament to that.) Marciano is another who deserves props for underrated defensive skills.

    The chin of Joe Louis has gotten short shrift because of the number of knockdowns he sustained over the course of his career, but he stood up to a number of massive bombs during that time. Galento's deadly hook produced little more than a flash knockdown. He withstood plenty before Schmeling and Marciano were able to put him out.

    Frazier's jab and right hand caught Quarry by surprise in their rematch. Jimmy Young and Wilfredo Benitez could absorb tremendous body punishment without wilting.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was like a MW/SMW George Foreman. Threw the widest, most wound up punches you'll ever see. Like a god damned barn door closing.

    But yes, the man's power was impressive.