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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok looking to start this up i know it probably has been done before but im really intrested in making one last and hopefully be stickyed

    to start with we will have 20 nominees for each category you can choose as much as you like just now then popele with more than 3 votes wil be put forward to induction

    the first induction will be 5 in each category the afterwards there will be 1 pick every fortnight

    so hows this for a first draft nominee

    Old Timer (Last Bout Before 1925)

    Joe Gans - 2 vote
    James J. Corbett
    Jack Johnson - 3 vote
    Sam Langford - 3 vote
    Harry Wills
    Bob Fitzimmons - 1 vote
    Jimmy Wilde - 1 vote
    Panco Villa
    Jim Driscoll
    George Dixon
    Jack Britton
    Ted 'Kid' Lewis - 1 vote
    Young Griffo
    Peter Jackson
    Joe Jeanette
    Mysteriuos Billy Smith
    Nonpareil Jack Dempsey - 1 vote
    Stanley Ketchell - 1 vote
    Battling Nelson - 1 vote
    Owen Moran
    Jack McAuliffe
    Ad Wolgast
    Jack Dillon
    Les Darcy - 1 vote
    Abe Attell
    John L. Sullivan - 1 vote
    Jeff Clark
    Terry McGovern
    Newsboy Brown
    Tommy Ryan

    Modern (Fought after 1925 until 15 years ago)

    Benny Leonard - 3 vote
    Marvin Hagler - 1 vote
    Jose Napoles - 1 vote
    Benny Lynch
    Jack Demspey - 2 vote
    Rocky Marcaino - 1 vote
    Ray Robinson - 4 vote
    Harry Greb - 3 vote
    Henry Armstrong - 3 vote
    Ezzard Charles - 2 vote
    Archie Moore - 2 vote
    Carlos Monzon - 1 vote
    Willie Pep - 2 vote
    Sandy Saddler - 1 vote
    Carmen Basilio - 1 vote
    Wilfredo Benitez
    Bob Foster - 1 vote
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Kid Gavilan - 2 vote
    Fighting Harada
    Buea Jack
    Eder Jofre
    Ike Willaims
    Ismael laguna
    Ken Buchanan
    Muhammed Ali - 4 vote
    Niccolino Locche
    Ruben Olivarez
    Lionel Rose
    Pascal Perez - 1 vote
    Luis Rodriguez
    Emile Griffith - 1 vote
    Salvador Sanchez - 1 vote
    Dick Tiger
    Carlos Zarate - 1 vote
    Jersey Joe Walcott - 1 vote
    Tony Zale
    Chalky Wright
    Fritzie Zivic
    Miguel Canto
    Barney Ross - 2 vote
    Joe Louis - 2 vote
    Joe frazier - 1 vote
    Willie Ritchie - 1 vote
    Mickey Walker - 2 vote
    Tony Canzoneri - 1 vote
    Gene Tunney - 1 vote
     
    GPater11093, Apr 30, 2009
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well ,I wish you luck ,something tells me you are going to need it!
    PS It might be an idea to have a time lapse before fighters are eligible? Give people a chance to gain some objective perspective if that sentence makes sense.
     
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  3. Manassa

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    First off, set a cut-off point. As McVey said, you need a few years before you properly rate a fighter. I'd say, technical as it may be (that a fighter like Duran couldn't be entered), start off with fighters who were retired by 1995.

    And then decide how far back you want to go. The first gloved world champion?
     
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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Good list :good

    1 of those guys should be making way for Julio cesar Chavez tho.
     
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok Cut off date is 1995

    and start date is first gloved champ so i will edit list
     
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  6. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano would have got my vote but he was not there lol.
     
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  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    hes there now im looking for the 20 guys you think should get in from that list or anyone missing from the list
     
    GPater11093, May 1, 2009
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  8. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Who is the 'first gloved' champ?? And what qualifies him for it???
     
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  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    John L. Sullivan for me as he was the first man to win a heavyweight title under queensberry rules and is generally regarded as the first gloved champ

    but i dont know too much about the early days of boxing i admit
     
    GPater11093, May 1, 2009
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You might want to think about dividing it into Old Timers or, whatever you want to call it ,and Moderns,again with a cut off point ,just a thought.
     
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    good point will do that


    can poeple start saying who they want in
     
    GPater11093, May 1, 2009
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  12. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Mate, I'm as knowlegable as yourself.

    Corbett appears to be 'the first' of the Champs under Queensbury Rules. Having matched it with John L. in 1892.
    John L. was apparently the last to claim the 'Championship' under Prize Ring Rules.

    There's a mountain of queries and quandries. Janitor would be the one to make a better arangement.
     
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  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok well Janitor has told me that Sullivan was the first gloved champion beofe so im going form that
     
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  14. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Entry in Pioneers. Jem Mace.
     
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  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok will add him to Pioneer but im looking to get the fighters started then to Pioneers, Writers, judges, refs etc..

    can you please tell me 10 fightrers on each list you want in or any fighters missing
     
    GPater11093, May 1, 2009
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