Several Key British Pundits Are Claiming Hatton Needs To "Keep A Cool Head"

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    .....In the early rounds, and in general. Bunce has said this, and Watt has said this.

    Do you agree?

    They say he needs to keep a "cool head," and not do what he did against Mayweather. They think he needs to be thoughtful against Manny Pacquiao. Last time I checked Manny Pacquiao wasn't Floyd Mayweather - but that's just me. What's your take on this?
     
  2. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    He needs Mickey Vann to let him get away with a dirty, relentless brawl. :yep
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I think they are asking for controlled rather than reckless pressure.
     
  4. grayggr

    grayggr Active Member Full Member

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    I certainly do.

    I dont think cool head means a negative, or less aggressive approach, I think it just means he has got to keep focus. I think although FMJ would still have taken a decision back in Dec 07, a more focused Hatton, less concerned with Joe Cortez, and more about working his opponent the correct way, would have less likely been KO'd. I think the same logic applies against Manny.
     
  5. McGrain

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    Very, very, very much. Does that make sense? "I agree very much"....yeah, I think that is ok...anyway, Hatton lost the plot against Mayweather. As the difficulties around him mounted, the ref, the speed, the point, he paniced. No question of him losing heart, just losing the plot a little bit.

    Pacquiao is going to take it away from Ricky in rounds one and two, and how. Ricky must NOT panic if he is to win the fight. He is the bigger man, he needs to fight like the bigger man, with pressure, punching, he must be patient and he absolutely must not panic.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Tell me how that's going to translate in a logistical sense.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  8. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hatton cannot box with Pac.

    He needs to do what he did against Tszyu.
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wonder if the arrival of 25,000 british fans have swayed the betting odds there at Vegas at all.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If I may?

    Pacquiao is in trouble in terms of being on the ropes. Oscar got Manny to the ropes, even Oscar, he just couldn't "pull the trigger" as Roach put it. Now, assuming for a second that Ricky wins - which is assuming plenty - at some point there will be a Pacquiao transformation, from box puncher looking for war in spurts to a hurt fighter looking to stay out of trouble. I don't think Hatton can win unless he can get Manny thinking in defensive terms (due to his punches and there hurtuflness and or consistency).

    BEFORE Hatton breaks Manny (Again, "if", nobody get upset) Manny is going to be a very dangerous counterpuncher. Hatton needs to consider pre-cutting the ring on Manny when he tries to move before commiting to an attack. Going straight down the pipe will get him hurt, maybe the only punch that can see him really hurt.

    So that is one element. Using footwork to control Pacquiao's location and waiting for the right moment rather than bulling him. The later is what I expect to see in the second half of the fight. IF Hatton is to win.

    Which I think he will.
     
  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The key here is Floyd Sr. If Hatton and Floyd are not on the same page, It'll be Hatton vs Mayweather all over again. Ricky tends to get caught up in the moment and flustered if things start to swing. Floyd Sr essentially needs to keep him on a leash and only let it go when the time is right. If Hatton's idea is to bowl over Manny for 12 rounds and hope for some relent, it will probably backfire.
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I also agree with this. ^

    McGrain went specifically to the heart of what is most important regarding this issue in perfect context, IMV. But if Bunce and Watt are suggesting that Hatton spend even a millisecond longer on the outside than he would be naturally inclined, I think they're wrong.
     
  13. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Why do you think so, Riba? Do you consider Pacquiao to be as good of as a defensive fighter and as skilled of a counterpuncher as Floyd Mayweather?
     
  14. san rafael

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  15. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No but I really think Hatton is on a bit of a slide and his propensity to walk into punches with his head down out of frustration could be an issue when it comes to Pac. Lazcano had Hatton in some **** because Ricky walked in head down going "RAWR HOOK ME!" and lo and behold, hook city. If Hatton walks in like that against Pac he does a nighty nite.

    Remember Pac is as fast hand speed wise as Floyd and is hook isn't bad either.