Top 50 P4P ATG Lists?

afew people have and most are pretty good

i find it really hard to do

 

what I just came up with, it's not exactly ordered, but I grouped each fighter where I think he belongs

1-5:
Ray Robinson
Sam Langford
Harry Greb
Ezzard Charles
Henry Armstrong
6-11:
Roberto Duran
Benny Leonard
Muhammad Ali
Mickey Walker
Archie Moore
Bob Fitzsimmons
12-19:
Willie Pep
Ray Leonard
Barney Ross
Joe Walcott
Pernell Whitaker
Joe Gans
Tony Canzoneri
Charley Burley
20-28:
Joe Louis
Carlos Monzon
Gene Tunney
Jimmy Wilde
Emile Griffith
Kid Gavilan
Ike Williams
Jimmy McLarnin
Sandy Saddler
29-36:
Alexis Arguello
Jose Napoles
Julio Cesar Chavez
Eder Jofre
Carlos Ortiz
Ruben Olivares
Roy Jones
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
37-50:
Evander Holyfield
Marvin Hagler
Tommy Hearns
Manny Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Stanley Ketchel
Holman Williams
Michael Spinks
Fighting Harada
Lloyd Marshall
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
Jack Britton

And there's several others who could be argued in for the top 50, guys like Marciano, Sanchez, Tiger, etc. Yeah, it's hard to do.

 

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore
11. Benny Leonard
12. Ray Leonard
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Bob Fitzsimmons
15. Joe Gans
16. Carlos Monzon
17. Barney Ross
18. Jack Johnson
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jimmy Wilde
21. Mickey Walker
22. Sandy Saddler
23. Manny Pacquiao
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Alexis Arguello
26. Rocky Marciano
27. Gene Tunney
28. Roy Jones Jr
29. Lennox Lewis
30. Evander Holyfield
31. Bernard Hopkins
32. Jack Dempsey
33. Eder Jofre
34. Tony Canzoneri
35. Emile Griffith
36. Barbados Joe Walcott
37. Kid Gavilan
38. Salvador Sanchez
39. Ike Williams
40. Charley Burley

41. Larry Holmes
42. Floyd Mayweather Jr
43. Thomas Hearns
44. Jimmy McLarnin
45. Stanley Ketchel
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Ruben Olivares
49. Jose Napoles
50. Fighting Harada

 

hopkins and louis are timeless...hopkins being the best 40+ years old ever...the barometer for every old man is compared in future generation....louis had the most dominant reign in the richest division in boxing history...louis deserve to be in the top 7...but i have no problem having sam langford in the top 1...

 

Nice list Dinamita. I think Ross, McLarnin, and Canzoneri should be ranked pretty much side by side, as well as Emile Griffith and Luis Rodriguez. McLarnin'ss resume is among the top 10 resumes in the sport's history IMHO, and Rodriguez could've just as easily gone 3-1 with Griffith their series was so close, and what we have of their series on film indicates that maybe that should've been the case.

 

:twisted:

 

Whoops! I'm high dude, you'll have to forgive me.

 

Legit reason.

I haven't seen all of the footage for Griffith-Rodriguez to judge, so I'm just going by the official verdicts. McLarnin should probably be closer to Ross and Canzoneri though.

 

Jack dempsey is not a top 50 p4p fighter, maybe 80th.

 

Saddler's a bit too low.

Lennox Lewis doesn't deserve to be a top 100 list. I don't care if he beat Bowe, a prime Tyson and so on. Dude was 6'6 and 250 ****ing pounds.

 

Is that Magoo's wife after Suzie insulted her in your avatar?

I'm terrible! :tong

Trying to lighten the tension around here lately.

 

So? I'm not going to penalize him for being too big in a division that has no size limit. He's got one of the better resume in the history of his division, beat everyone he ever fought, was dominant, and rates about as highly H2H as anyone else in his weight class.

Also, a good amount of his opponents weren't much smaller than he was. Not including him doesn't make sense.