Better Resume: Hamed or Hatton?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, May 3, 2009.


  1. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On Hameds resume, his biggest wins would appear to be against, Tom "boom boom" Johnson, Cesar Soto, Ingle, Vasquez, Kelley, Mccullough, Bungu, Robinson and Medina, all world champs who held atleast one of the 4 main recognised titles. If not for Politics he woulda been the undisputed linear champ at featherweight, holding all four of the titles.

    Against him was a lopsided loss against Barrera, think it was 3 points on two cards, and 4on the other, coulda been more had it not been for the half nelson face smash that Barrera did. Barrera at the time was seen as way past his prime, coming off 2 brutal losses to Junior Jones and a close controversial points decision loss to Erik Morales, with most respected observers liking him to be brutally stopped by Hamed, and retired. Of course what actually happend was that he went on to school Hamed, became the big cheese in the division, and untill he met Pacquiao in their first match, could have seriously been argued to be the pound for pound number one. Its a shame Hamed didnt come back,Marquez / Morales/Pacquiao/Chi/Brodie/Harrison were waiting, woulda been awesome had he fought them.

    Hatton had good victories against Tszuyu, Collazo, Urango and Castillo, With guys like Tackie and luczano, Phillips and Pendleton making up other half decent names on his resume. Of course againt him is losses against higly regarded Lb for Lb number one fighters, a 10 round Shut out tko loss against Mayweather, and a possibly career ending 2nd round KO by The Pacman.

    Of all the victories out of the two, Hatton has the 2 bigger names, Tszuyu and Castillo, however they were both shot by the time he fought them, and the rest don't really register as anything more than Safe bets. So Overall I'd give it to Hamed, But only just.
     
  2. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    Hard to call so I am sitting on the fence.
    I don't agree with the 'Tszyu was shot' comments personally.
     
  3. Diablo

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    Hamed edges it for me - he dominated his world class opponents but was beaten by a true elite fighter.

    Hatton - often struggled in beating world class opponents and got whooped and ko'd by the 2 elite fighters.

    Castillo was shot - that has been proven
    Tzsyu - its hard to say how over the hill he was
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most people rank Floyd and Pac far higher than MAB in ATG terms... from what I've noticed...


    Hamed had a taste of MAB while Naz was in his 20s and he called it a day quick smart. I think Hatton is getting an overly hard time for getting his arse beat by elite twice. Something Hamed opted out of doing.


    I don't think there is a huge amount in it, but Hatton has the greater win.

    I say Hatton, but It's quiet close though.

    Some of Hattons wins may still go on to do better things...
     
  5. slapsSOgood

    slapsSOgood Active Member Full Member

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    Not all arabs blew up the World Trade Centre, ya know.

    Plus I wouldnt talk **** about Hamed, when you have Mayweather as your no. 1 **** talker.
     
  6. Club Fighter

    Club Fighter Boxing Addict banned

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    What the **** is that supposed to mean? I swear you Euros are under the impression that Americans are ignorant of and hate everything that is not American. You gotta stop falling back on this erroneous conclusion and just take things for what they're worth, ya limey *****.

    At least he doesn't go around shootin' his mouth off, get whooped, and then run all the way back home with his tail tucked between his legs never to be heard from again like a punk *****. How can you call yourself a true champ if you run away at the first sign of trouble and don't even possess the heart to want to avenge your loss? Absolutely shameful and he is in no way a warrior or worthy of respect. He's a fair-weather fighter who only wishes he could be a Mayweather fighter.

    Ain't no shame in losing. Most of my favorites have been defeated. But as soon as they tasted defeat they would not rest until they got that man who made them suffer it in the ring again so they could turn the tides.
     
  7. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    i go for hamed as i felt hattons record was padded out for along time then he stepped up to fight tszyu who in my opinion wasn't the same tszyu that fought judah. hamed fought many world champions or ex world champs and also with hatton i felt the collazo fight he lost so there's always a question mark over his record. hamed achieved more at world level in a short space of time he was a better fighter on the whole in my opinion aswell. hamed also defended title alot more then hatton but in all fairness it is tight but hamed just edges for me in terms of what was achieved and records he broke.
     
  8. 9Ball

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    What he said .... ^
     
  9. 9Ball

    9Ball Smeghead Full Member

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    Errrm yup!
    Couldn't have put it better myself.
     
  10. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How old are you? you seem to be a kid.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    If you're anything of a man yourself, you would accept and understand the fact that a man has the right to choose his own destiny. There is more to life than boxing, Hamed had a great career, achieved a lot, earned an insane amount of money and decided to get out of the sport with his health intact so he could raise his young children and care for his family - if that is something you choose not to 'respect', and instead describe as 'shameful' then that says more about you, than it does about Hamed.
     
  12. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    why do you think im a kid


    good guess btw im 15
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hamed was the best precocious talent this country has EVER produced. There is NO comparison between there careers in the slightest. As for better resume does that even need discussing? When Hamed was busy blazing a trail through domestic and European and world honours, in the same time frame Hatton was still busy defending the WBU.
     
  15. Club Fighter

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    Oh, please, spare me the bull****, dude. This is not about "health intact" and "raising the kids" and any other bull**** he'll have you believe. I heard all the bull****. Didn't fly. Had he not taken that "L" he'd still be fighting 'til this day. He takes an "L" and alluvasudden he gets worried about "health" and "raising kids" and all that. How convenient. He "couldn't do it anymore cuz he'd be away from his family for weeks at a time." Bull****. If he really cared that much he wouldn't have got himself sent to jail where he's away from that same family for months at a time. Call a spade a spade. This is about cowardice and a lack of fortitude. Face it, he's a quitter. When the going gets tough, he takes the **** off. The end. And he had the nerve to say he idolized Ali years ago when he was running his mouth. :-(

    P.S. Now I'm not saying he's not talented but you can't talk all that smack and then jet out like a ***** when you realize you're not gonna be able to back it up.