Pavlik/Mora STILL no announcement??? update: done deal update2: undone deal

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    He's talking about Paul Williams. KP had an interesting perspective on Williams yesterday. Seems that if he wants to fight Pav, he'll have to settle down at 160 and establish himself as a true middleweight.
     
  2. booradley

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    Name them. Who are all these "more interesting options" at 160.
     
  3. Hermit

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    Since when is Paul Williams "The Predator"? Well, anyway, if he wants to settle in at 154, Billy Lyell would give him a good fight. At 160, Paul "Now The Predator" Williams finds out lots of punches with no leverage will get him KTFO cuz they aren't going to keep Kelly Pavlik off of him. He will also find out that Kelly can throw as many punches except he DOES get leverage on them. Sweet Dreams Aikens.
     
  4. janeschicken

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    Paul Williams, Arthur Abraham.****, if he has has to go picking on little guys in the 154 division, at least go for a Forrest or Dzinziruk. Don't give me this line that a name fighter like KP can't get someone decent in the ring with him. The Mora fight is a joke and we all know it.
     
  5. booradley

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    Paul Williams: Already turned Pavlik down.

    Forrest: Split a pair of fights with Mora, and has a mandatory coming up.

    Dzinziruk: Do you really believe that a Light-Middle who fought a competetive fight with Julio is a viable opponent:patsch
    Mora: He has exactly 2 fights at 154. That's the exact same number of fights KP has at 154. Does that make Kelly a light middle? I think not. Mora fought in the 2000 olympic trials in the same division as Pavlik and was eliminated by the same fighter; Jermain Taylor. Mora made his pro debut at 160, won the Contender Season I at 160, and all his fights except for Forrest have been at 160.
     
  6. Hermit

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    While I tend not to trust promoters too much, I have a feeling Arum was more 'less wrong' than Goosen in the Pavlik/Williams ****up. Williams ain't gonna happen. As Boo said, Saurland makes lots of noise about wanting Pavlik, but negotiations tell a different story. That at least according to Pavlik. There was someone saying in a thread that the money Saurland offered Sturm was a press release only that they never made an official offer to Sturm. Hard to say where the truth lies sometimes.
     
  7. Arriba

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    HBO won't control the scorecards and it'll also have a vested interest in KP since he'll be their guy. Basically what he's saying is that in the event that he were to lose, he'd have the spin cycle there. Very un-Pavlik of him.

    I don't like this "I'll get robbed so I want HBO to be there!"-esque attitude from KP, specifically since I think the thing most people like about him is his go in there, get it done and go home style.
     
  8. julianfoster88

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    Sergio Mora doesnt deserve a fight with Pavlik especially when hes been fighting at Junior Middleweight he needs to get a few fights at Middleweight I think Pavlik needs to fight Paul Williams or wait for Arthur Abraham which would be a mistake maybe try to lure Felix Sturm if he wants to get out of Germany or do something to stay busy for a future title bout with Arthur Abraham
     
  9. 1ytownfan

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    put Pav in with kid dynamite. he comes to get punched. Mora fight doesnt spark much interest. This is a hard ppv to sell. 2 fights in a row not showcased on hbo or showtime. We got to see more of Pav when he was tearin up the ranks. Why is nobody callin him out. Seriously, i heard of aa callin him out once. where is everybody else. what? nobody want the middlewieght champion.
     
  10. booradley

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    Arriba:patsch

    All KP is asking for if he goes to Germany is that it be covered by an American Network and seen in America because you can beat AA in Germany and still lose on the cards. The farcical nature of the first Miranda fight proves that.
     
  11. Arriba

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    He shouldn't even be bringing up the idea of losing on the cards.

    That's the whole point. He should be saying "I'm gonna be the first guy to knock Abraham out" not "I may win but get jobbed so yeah Bobfather bring HBO if you please."

    It's not a proper attitude.
     
  12. booradley

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    Do you read threads, or just scroll straight to the end and say something stupid. ****ing ******! Sergio Mora has 22 pro fights. TWENTY OF THEM WERE AT 160!!!!!!

    Pavlik/Abraham is in November. Pavlik/Mora and Abraham/Lorenzo are on June 27th.
     
  13. booradley

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    I'll buy that, up to a point. Everytime KP talks about AA he mentions the first Miranda fight. For some reason that really stuck in his craw; needs to let it go.
     
  14. Arriba

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    It just gives the wrong vibe unfortunately. Not that I think it's an excuse or that Pavlik is scared but it's like "Why are you even thinking like that aloud?"
     
  15. NeckBreaknAiken

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    OK, just got back from class...

    You KP folks are so ****in sensitive. Almost as much as Cotto-queers...

    Anyway. Let's be honest here. Who do you really think deserves a shot at Pav?

    Mora, who just lost his very last fight... at JMW?
    Or PW, who has won his last 4, with the latest being against Winky Wright?

    Let's be real about this.

    KP is a great fighter who deserves to be favored against Paul. But if any one of you think he's just gonna walk through Paul's ****, you will be extremely surprised once they actually ****in fight.

    And again, I refuse to get into a pissing match over which promoter lied the most.