Ring Magazine's P4p List: Donaire debuts at 8th; Cotto re-enters at 7th

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  1. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a very disappointing list. There is no justification for Caballero, Donaire, and both Marquez and Vazquez who have been mia for over a year.

    I am a fan of all 4 of them but I don't see why they should be in the list.

    Caballero has yet to fight the big 3 of his division, with his small accomplishments, no matter how dominant he has been against subpar competition does not merit the top 10 p4p list.

    Donaire is the same, he may be the best of his division, but there are others in the same boat. He has done nothing after beating Vic, who has shot into stardom and become multidivision champion.

    Marquez and Vazquez need to be placed outside the top 10. When they fight again and show they still belong there then they can take a spot.
     
  2. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice donaire finally getting respect. I hope donaire can fight someone big next time. Mijares or darchinyan rematch.
     
  3. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    I like Cotto but Dawson should be in instead of him.
     
  4. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    PTP is deserving to be on the list.
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Cotto shouldn't even be on the list and where the hell is Paul Williams.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    damn, looks like the ring panel thinks that margarito never existed
     
  7. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Yeah, it is ridiculous. He beats Margo, loses a decision then comes back and KOs Quintana at 147. Goes to 160 and KOs Kolle, drops to 154 and TKOs Verno Phillips. Goes back to 160 and UDs Winky Wright and The Ring can't find space for him in the Top 10 P4P but put Cotto in there because he beat ****ing Micheal jennings.

    No respect.
     
  8. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cotto should gtfo the list
     
  9. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Wlad should be in there.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Absolutely.

    Nonito Donaire impressed the hell out of me against Martinez. He was flawless. Combination punching looked dynamic, and his power is absolutely devastating. I really like this kid, a lot.
     
  11. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If they have Mosley they need to put cotto too.
     
  12. mbrockett

    mbrockett ESB voyeur Full Member

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    correct me if im wrong but P4P is supposed to show the best fighters irrespective of size. size is the only thing wlad has going for him. his boxing skills are turgid and he would bomb against an equally physically equipped boxer.
    saying that i would like to hear justification for the list changes.

    but cotto definitely deserves to be on the list in general. 1 debatable loss. many credible wins. do people seriously think his skills have depleted since the mosley win, yet noone is debating his entry - even tho he is there for a win against someone who got to the top through cheating.
     
  13. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    The top 10 is characteristically weak. R. Marquez and Vasquez are each about two punches away from being vegetables, Hopkins is a senior citizen, J. Marquez is strong but increasingly vulnerable, and everyone else is a potential suspect. The only thing I like is Pacquiao.
     
  14. tis4u2envy

    tis4u2envy Member Full Member

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    Are you fu?king retarted?? Whats up with the Cotto bashing. Cotto lost to Margarito who at the time was invincible to many. Loaded gloves and all, Vic got his ass knocked out. Cotto's resume versus Vic doesn't even compare. Name one fighter on Vic's resume that's better then Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Margarito, Torres, etc,.... The list goes on. Cotto deserves to be on the list He has one lost all the guys on this list have more then 1. **** Misley KNocked out Margarito and all of a sudden he is five on the list. He has five losses One to Cotto. He looked horrible against Mayorga then beat up a possible shell shocked ( from the Cotto fight ) Margarito. Margarito's trainer even said Marg didn't seem like the same fighter during training camp after the Cotto fight.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Terrible list. Where's Williams and Bad Chad? **** Paul Williams defines P4P