Floyds Last 3 Vs Mannys Last 3 And Some Strange Contradictions.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, May 5, 2009.


  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    How is Pac moving up to face Hatto same as Hatton moving up to face Floyd in a weight class he's looked bad in before?


    You are yet to even put up a compelling argument.
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NO OTHER FIGHTER!?!?!

    berto-pw-cotto-shane could have EASILY killed oscar in a similar if not worse matter
    so this forum should be used as a barometer for meaningful & unmeaningful victories ... as many idiots as there are on this forum...

    anyone who said pac would win pointed out

    - oscar getting hit against forbes
    - and the weight thing

    very few people took teh time to analyze this... roach knew all along
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so you think a prime manny would beat oscar?

    i never said i didnt like manny... all im saying is if your going to call floyd a cherry picker you should call manny one as well

    if you call manny a great multi division champ.. you should call floyd one as well... im just saying keep it consistent
     
  4. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hatton=odlh = quality wins for belts from guys in the correct division
    diaz=baldo = bums that had belts
    odlh=hatton = guys in the wrong class

    is that better
     
  5. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So let me follow your thought process here.

    Because Roach felt before the fight that he "knew" he had an edge, Manny winning the fight strikes you as less of an achievement somehow?

    Do you really think fights are won and lost behind what the winning trainer "thinks"? Last I checked, outcomes have a little more to do with what the winning fighter "does".
     
  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its easy to say but noone did it and you know what Oscars victory over Forbes was more dominating than the Berto win over Forbes or do you choose to leave out facts that don't help you out at all.

    And of course everyone knows Oscar had slowed and that Forbes had reddened his face, however Oscar caught him much more and dominated him.

    That fight is the reason I felt Pac had any chance against Hoya.

    But what he did was amazing. He makes good fighters look less than ordinary therefore you must find a reason or excuse how it happened.

    I'll give it to you Pac proved he's great
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah but it wasn't a thought....everything roach said came to fruition so it was actually true

    oscar LOST HIS SNAP... aka washedup.... i dont know why its not like im trying to take away from manny's achievement.... im not .. oscar was just really washedup

    and to be fair....

    manny was in the wrong weight class when he fought floyd....

    at the end of the day both of these fights null each other out

    so **** berto then... margarito would have put oscar out in like 4 rounds. plus he would have had concrete gloves so maybe even faster

    im not taking away from teh fact that pac went in the ring and did what he was supposed to..... its not manny's fault that oscar was a washed up - weight drained piece of **** when he walked into the ring.. manny did what he was supposed to.... and manny can blame oscar for being weight drained and dumming down his victory
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    margarito would have killed oscar
    as would cotto
     
  9. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny dude. Oscar lost his step years ago even before the Mayweather fight.

    Even in 05 when he fought Mayorga he was done Mayorga just never ducked or tried to block a shot he was made for Oscar.

    Oscars timing and reflexes are what really hurt him,he couldn'judge when the punches were coming or when to let go. Which was magnified with Mannys great hand and foot speed.

    None of those other guys have the foot speed to have DeLaHoya looking stupid trying to find them.
     
  10. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shame Floyd could only manage an SD
     
  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    fair enough...if thats the case.... it hurts mayweather & pac which further supports my points that you have to address them in the same regard

    either they are both great multi divisional champs
    or they are both in their last 3 fights have picked bums

    yeah but @ 154 cotto vs oscar would be a different story.. actually cotto would probably still win but who knows...

    shane also knocked margarito the **** out and margarito knocked cotto the **** out... so that is a bad point
     
  12. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    see man you buy into all the bull****. Oscar said Hatton would've ko'd him that night too and that Hatton would definitely win against Pac.

    Everyone saying how bad Oscar was that night had Ricky being able to get the W against Pac
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    im making my judgement off styles..

    margarito would have bludgeoned oscar to death... oscar really doesnt have defense like that as of his last fight & there is no way he would have won a fire fight with margarito

    forget cotto at this point... i personally think cotto would have tko'd oscar except the ref would have stopped it but thats just my opinion
     
  14. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea they're both great champs but. what Pac has done would be like Mayweather fighting Hopkins back down at middle.

    Then if he dominates everyone says he's past it look he's lost3 of his last 6 fights anyway and hasn't fought at middle in a few years
     
  15. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i agree.... i wanted to use that point earlier... but it has been a long time since bhop has been at middle... i wnated to use winky @ welter as well but it has been a long time also