jack johnson vs george foreman...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by shommel, Nov 10, 2008.


  1. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Johnson: UD. Relatively plain sailing for the most part, especially from the midway point onwards. :good
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    M ,can you please furnish us with the fights you think are missing in my post? Johnson fought Klondike 3 times he lost the first in the 5 rd by tko after flooring Haynes with an uppercut earlier,it was his first year as a boxer,the next fight was a 20 rd draw ,ayear later ,then a year after that he kod Klondike in 13 rds ,which suggests a steady improvement as he matured .Griffin held Johnson to 3 draws 2 over 20 rds 1 over 15,Griffin never beat Johnson.Hart won a very hotly debated decision over Johnson where the referee scored for "agression" ,hardly mixed results.Lets NOT go down the old road again PLEASE!
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Are you sure about that?
     
  4. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    The problem with Foreman is his lack of accuracy on a moving target.

    It would not be a picnic for the Galveston Giant, but he would prevail. This would go similarly to Zaire in that Foreman would bull forward with more lethal intentions than effectiveness. Sooner than later, George would tire against a moving, parrying, clinching Johnson, who all the while would be shooting in sharp lefts and rights on his wide-open foe.

    Frustration, weariness, and a healthy dose of leather prevent George from hearing the final bell.
     
  5. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    If George opts to box rather than slug then I think he stands a good chance. For all of his power George was a good boxer when he wanted to be. His jab could cause many problems for Jack and his chin is top notch as well. Foreman's problem was that he never learned to relax in the ring, at least in his early years, which caused him many problems against good boxers. In his second career he was much better at pacing himself and picking his shots. The older Foreman way of fighting would bring him victory against Johnson. If he tries to KO him early and expends all his energy then Johnson takes it by mid to late round KO after George gasses out.
     
  6. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Johnson was a master boxer, who slipped punches, picked off punches, and has cat-like reflexes. Foreman was a slow, hulking clubber. Johnson would out-box Big George to a unanimous decision - if not KO'd - Foreman would be lucky to lay a glove on him, Johnson's defensive skills were superior beyond belief.
     
  7. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jack was a defensive genius who'd definitely have his work cut out against the heavy punching Foreman. Jack would slap and move and try to catch Georges shots out of the air to evade the massive hitting texan.. I say George would not have the mental capacity to try to outsmart Johnson , and over a very long fight he would tire and probably fight himself to a halt around the 20 round mark and leave himself wide open to Jack and his fast clever inside punching.. Jack by stoppage in a very very long fight...
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone else think Foreman's jab plays a major role in this fight?
     
  9. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he uses it enough. It could be a real treetrunk kinda jab.

    I certainly can't agree with the others that feel it would be a breeze for Johnson. When you're relying on evasion and parrying rather than being able to just stay the hell out of the pocket, you have to bear in mind Foreman's ferocious power. Johnson would need to be very sharp and with the right gameplan. Can't afford too many errors.

    Having said that, if he is on top form, then apart from some tough moments he can outfox George for the points win.
     
  10. joe33

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    Foreman for me would KO johnson late on, but **** would be fun to watch, as jack was a master of defence, i remember a video from the 80s when tyson was shown footage of jack and asked what he thought, well he laughed and said he would be wiped out by modern fighters (this was 86 or so) not that is proof or anything but interesting any way
     
  11. Chris Warren

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    Jack Johnson fought in a era where figthers didnt throw combinations, people wore smaller gloves, where you could duck people because of skin color. Foreman was bigger, faster, stronger and punched harder than anybody Jack Johnson fought.

    As somebody stated Choynsky blew Johnson out. Completely knocked him out stiff yet Foreman wouldn't? How many fights have you seen Johnson fight a black guy? Any footage of these fights exist? You seen Johnson take 15 rounds to knock out `70 pound fighters but you think he can beat Foreman or any half was decent modern fighters?

    There should be a adults boxing forum and a childs one, You people amaze me with the stupid things you say. Fighters you have only seen a few fights up who fought in a whole different era yet you still think they can beat modern fighters

    Foreman walks through anything Johnson has to offer and crushes him in 1 round. 2 rounds top.
     
  12. McGrain

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    :lol::patsch
     
  13. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    Lock and pop for a Johnson win.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I would check the ring record book, or go to box rec on line. Johnson had 20+ fights under his belt when Choynski Ko'd him, not 8 as you said. In fact Johnson lost a fight well before losing via TKO to Haines.

    If you read that Johnson only had 8 fights under his belt when he meet Choynski, its a bad source. Don't always trust what a book says, they are often poorly re-searched and sometimes lack accuracy in terms of results, dates, and facts.
     
  15. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    I never saw the point in nit-picking Johnson's early career when he had it tough to say the least.

    Prime, fully filled-out Johnson slows Foreman down and beats him down. Jack would be made to work harder but he would do the goods.