Hatton: "I Never Recovered From The First Punch."

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  1. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good points....i do remember hatton walking straight through a few bombs from Tszyu and Hoya ate multiple bombs from psc
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Tszyu barely landed enough serious bombs in that fight and I would HIGHLY appreciate it if NONE mention that fight please. That fight was a disgrace to boxing in general, it was a hugfest and a fight where Hatton fully allowed to throw whatever punch he wanted whenever he wanted, legal or illegal you name it. Tszyu was barely able to fight his usual fight with all the cheating/dirty tactics Hatton was openly allowed to use in that disgrace of a fight.

    It's ironic really because you would see Hatton fans shamelessly discuss how Cortez was an ******* for not allowing Hatton to apply his dirty tactics which he's allowed to in England but they won't mention the referee during the Tszyu fight.
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I've gotten buzzed like that. The shot zings you but there's no reaction in your body. Hatton did have that drunken leading thing happening. His foot got caught on the gas, and he kept getting hit with the same right hook until about the 4th good one put him down. Then he was really ****ed. :skull
     
  4. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Co-sign

    I've always thought that that fight was a disgrace and Hatton's tactics were despicable.
     
  5. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Hatton/Tszyu fight was one of the most disgusting fights i have ever seen. Hatton could have done an armbar and gotten away with it. One of the ugliest fights i have seen in the last few years.
     
  6. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton ate some huge shots that night. That is just a fact irrelevant of all what else may or may not have went on. His wrestling, illegal tactics etc...

    It's on Youtube. He does eat some huge shots, that's just a fact. You can't just choose to wipe the fight from history because you don't like it.
     
  7. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    As a MEGA Tszyu fan, this was about the blackest day in my boxing fandom life, worse than the Phillips loss.

    But you know the thing that made that fight sort of "less" controversial was the class and speach Tszyu made in the ring following the fight.

    But dude - What a mugging, Tszyu had to fight two guys in the ring that night.
     
  8. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It doesn't help that he didn't see any of those shots. That makes it that much worse, then throw in the fact that he was literally running at Pac it is gonna amplify Pac's power.
     
  9. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still hurting obviously. :D
     
  10. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Bull**** as usual.

    You know very well that any boxer who was hit by a perfect left hook, which was the money shot of Pacquaio, would have been KO'ed all the same.
     
  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    How do you figure that?

    As any big puncher will tell you it is not simple to predict what type of shot will knock an opponent out. Tyson certainly noted that sometimes huge punches landed in the right places would inexplicably fail to move an opponent, whilst other "taps" would be devastating.

    Hatton was hit by an enormous puncher and I have no reason to believe that his chin had "gone".
     
  12. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But, I think Hatton could see the Tszyu shots, and he never saw the Pac right hooks that hit him early, not one. And we all know the ones we don't see are the ones that hurt you. Hatton then had to watch out for the right hooks, and what happened next? The Pac left destroyed him.

    This is the problem now that every opponent faces when they fight Pac. Which do we watch out for? The quick powerful right hook? Or the supersonic quick monsterous straight left? Both can kill you, too.
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I've seen the fight live and MANY times after that as well, I still have it full DVD quality version on my PC. Tszyu might have landed some solid rights but he didn't really land enough of them to really give us a discussion and reason is simple and clear. Tszyu is an outside fighter and whenever he positioned Hatton there(which takes skill to do) Hatton just charged in with head straight into Tszyu's face and made it close with his wrestling tactics. He would grabd Tszyu from one hand and nail him with over 8 punches to the back of the head then proceed to shove him and jump on him with cheap punches he never even earned the position to time but FORCED it with illegal tactics. Tszyu did land but did he land enough?, the answer is no and the reason is what I mentioned right there. Hatton was just allowed to make it an inside fight while using illegal tactics to take it there, he didn't really use skills to keep Tszyu off his positioning he just took advantage of a referee who was there to be taken advantage of. There are moments, LITERALLY, where even Hatton would put on a surprised look after grabbing close and throwing countless illegal punches then would look at the referee with a look that had "Are you going to seperate us or should I like 10 more punches to the back of the head and balls?".

    That isn't a fight good enough to use as an example really as he didn't get a fair enough fight to apply any strategy. As sad as this may sound but still proof of what Tszyu really. Tszyu was way past his best, way too inactive(because of a serious back injury) fighting only TWICE in two years(Sharmba Mitchell II came 1 year before this) and still the fight was close. As insulting as it may sound it's the truth.
     
  14. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton's punch resistance may or may not be going, but I don't think we could really say one way or another without more evidence. I do think that Pac's speed and Hatton being constantly caught blind or coming dead into the blows had more to do with it though.

    Well, to play the other side of the argument, toughness and a good chin are about the only things Diaz has going for him, and he fought the fight with Pac much more conservatively and defensively than Hatton did, keeping his hands high, fighting in a crouch rather than keeping his chin up in the air, leaning away from punches rather than into them, etc.

    It may also be that they were focusing more on making sure Manny's speed stayed intact for his first fight at lightweight, and have since worked to upgrade his power after they were sure that the speed would still be there despite the higher weight class.
     
  15. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is clear to me that Hatton's punch resistance has gone. To even deny that it has deterioriated significantly would be very very blind! Once your punch resistance goes, its time to get out of this sport.