John L v Butter Bean 4 5rds?

True McVey... plus Sullivan never took on the pride of Australia whilst here...

Looking at Butterbean, its not a picture of health. When put into consideration Eric would have been a monster in the 1800's. No doubt, his health would have failed him by the age of 30.

He's a 4 round pig, but typically designed by the USA for that reason. He'd have been a murderous monster on any vaudeville circuit. Personally, I'd doubt John L was a classier fighter.

Sullivan would avoid him... as he did so many others whilst 'claiming' to be a champion of sorts.

Hope ya keeping well McV.

 

McVey, do you refer to the 4 photographs?? Ive seen them.... actually thought it was Butterbean/Kilrain.

 

This is a joke. Sullivan knocked out a reputed 500 men during his reign doing these four round exhibitions across America and Europe. Esch, though enormous, doesnt have the ability to take on Sullivan, who knocked out huge men before. Slade and Flood are two examples, the latter weighing 300+ pounds.

 

Mate, your arguement is on par with Sam Langford bringing his protoge' Dave Depena to Australia for some amazing 'money making' fights for Sam.

No disrespect.

Sullivan may have had 500 defences of 'nothing' during his null reign. Who did he really contest with, to make an brilliant arguement???

Brits and Australians were fighting for "Queensbury Titles" long before Corbett/Sullivan.

Sullivan was great.. a great fighter. But the "IM THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD" dribble is what carried his name. He didn't meet all available.

The entire Era is made up of bull****, agreements, unqualified champs and limited legitimate matches.

 

So....just because he didnt defeat Peter Jackson, makes him ****?

Sullivan defeated the best challengers available (save Jackson; you can argue George Godfrey, but Sullivan did try on three occassions to pull the fight off) under both the London Prize and Marquis of Queensbury rules.

 

Sully's legend is part pro and con........... He was a party hardy type of sportsman.... He never took the game really serious.......... Plus, in John L. Sullivan's days, fights would go on for hours because nobody would throw a punch for hours..... Lotsa' boring middle rds were fought....... I wouldn't be shocked if Bean clocked and stopped Sully early...... Okay, let the arrows fly.... I'm ducking.....

The Bean who was 333 pounds for Larry "Old Fart" Holmes in 2002 was in pretty good shape for a hefty dude..... Bean went 10 good rds.....

MR.BILL

 

Sullivan toured Australia.. He refused to meet anyone. Joe Goddard especially. He was touring as 'champ of the world'.

In the sport of boxing, Sullivan needs a true enquirery... "BOXING GATE"!!

 

My God..... Janitor will be an angry man!!!!

 

I thought the "pride of Australia" was that some of its citizenry are of British extraction. Tough break for the rest of the wogs there, but that's life!

 

Im not sure what you mean??

 

I'd expect Sullivan to do a bit better than 1-6-1 Mitchel Rose did:


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