Lineal Championship - Cyberboxing and Ring Magazine

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    do you agree with the title lineages researched by the cyberboxing team?
    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/pastchp.htm

    how about the lineal done by ring magazine?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Ring_world_champions


    do you recognized morales the lineal champ at 122?
    was PBF the last recognized lineal champ at juniorlightweight?
    how about erdei the lineal champ in the jones era and even up to now

    does lineal championship, a significant accomplishment?

    post your comments and views
     
  2. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with the Heavyweights. I don't have time to look at the rest right now. (My wife is keeping me pretty busy with Spring house cleaning.) :roll: :lol:
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    one day im going to finish doing my lineages and ill get back to this topic i did the WW one so i might have a loook tommorw
     
  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    my question here is why did they didnt recognize morales, barrera, marquez and pacquiao as the lineal 130 champ
     
  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The lineal title became vacant after Mayweather moved up, and Morales failed to clean out the division or become the clear #1 before losing to Barrera.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JMM and Pac was the top 2 130 pounders...they fought and the winner should be declared the lineal champ...

    not sure who is the second best fighter in morales reign at 130, i guess it's corrales
     
  7. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just looked over the heavies. I think it looks pretty well ok, although personally i dont recognise Hart or Burns as Jefferies reestablished lineage when he came back so I go straight from Jefferies to Johnson.
     
  8. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    foreman was the lineal champ from 1994-1997 but he is by far not the best HW that time
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's questionable, Edwin Valero was a titleholder and already well established at the weight. Anyone looking to claim lineage at that weight would likely have to beat him first.

    Either Corrales or Nanthachai.
     
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nanthachai and lakva sim was not in the top 8 when they fought for the vacant wba title
     
  11. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That holds no relevance while lineage is still intact
     
  12. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IF your going that root, than Ralf Tiger Jones became Middleweight Champion when he beat a comebacking Robinson, BEFORE he lost to Fullmer and Carman and Pendler.

    I conisder Burns and Hart Lineal Champs. Not great champs, but lineal, Burns mostly clean out other countrys top fighters taking the title on the road. Before Johnson dethorn him.
    Hart beat Johnson.
    6 years is plenty of time.
     
  13. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The whole idea of lineage is to beat the man who beat the man. Johnson did that. Had Jefferies never made the come back al a Marciano or Tunney then I would have accepted Hart and Burns. I understand why they are included I personally however dont recognise them as more than title holders
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So is Ralf Tiger Jones Middleweight champ in your book? And Fullmer and Carman, and Pendler and so on never became champs?