What was Bunce thinking

Ah so HBO have the fight - they are interested in even this total dud of a rematch.

A HBO contract, TV deals, are far, far, more important than the number of people who turn up at a stadium.


US TV deals are where the money is at...

 

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Yep. Just being on HBO sold an extra 1500 tickets in Vegas.

I actually feel for Chad, because he has more talent in his index finger than Berto has in his body but his story isnt as good, and he was a champ in a division that held 2 of the top 4 P4P before the first fight with Tarver. So they couldnt build him as a 'right now fighter' because Calzaghe or Hop wouldnt get in the ring with him. So he was always going to be the 3rd best in a division looked on as weak. Not good.


For some ****ed up reason the Americans wont get behind him. Maybe because he's a good guy aswell as a good fighter, and not a KO artist I dont know. But he is future gold for HBO. He has it all, and when he matures he will be priceless for them.

But since then they know he has a win over the cruiserweight king and a dominant win over Tarver(Who the US know, but didnt see). And HBO stepped right in for the rematch.

Wish him all the best because he has talent in abundance and some class too boot.

 

What Bunce meant was a man shunned by the big network in the States and couldnt sell 300 tickets at first time of asking against Tarver (When Calzaghe was active) cant get a fight with the P4P No.3 in Wales, making him millions, just because a few websites demanded the fight beause he was the best young American prospect.

Wouldnt happen to any other fighter. Just stupid. Bunce just isnt very conservative with his words. It sounds like he is having a pop at Chad but he isnt.

He also goes on to accuse Calzaghe of backstabbing which was funny as ****, and the yanks in the GF werent having it. It messed with the Calzaghe propaganda allegations. Brilliant.

 

Steve is absolutely right. Joe Calzaghe is the greatest fighter of our generation and at 46-0 should only be mixing with big ticket sellers like Sakio Bika and Bernard Hopkins. 6-8 million dollars is simply too much to ask for, who does Dawson think he is? Some unbeaten champion in his prime or something? I do think Calzaghe should have one more fight though.... De La Hoya. He can sell tickets. Thats what its all about.

 

Err what? Did Hopkins retire? Even then Dawson would hardly be 'universally' recognised as the best LHW, there are other undefeated fighters in the division like Diaconu and Cloud and a fairly large number of people felt Johnson beat Dawson.

 

By that standard Dawson has the same amount of claim as Adrian Diaconu?

 

Exactly. Just coz some people think he might be the best it doesn't mean anything. I mean whats he done that Calzaghe hasn't other then beat no marks like Adamek, Johnson and Tarver? Calzaghe only fights the best. Hopkins had just beat Tarver and Jones has beaten an ATG in Trinidad. :good

 

Dawson was definitley worthy of a Calzaghe rematch, when you consider that the Millennium Stadium was backed for Manfredo :rofl

I know what Buncey is saying, but let's be honest, Calzaghe might've beaten Dawson, but then Dawson would've just been 'overrated'.

Calzaghe is totally overrated himself though, so if someone were to take his '0' they'd probably get the same disrespect. Maybe. Actually no, it'd probably be recognised as a great win, I'm not quite sure where I stand with Calzaghe, maybe in ten years time I will really appreciate him

 

my last post is totally confusing!!!!!!

 

If Joe beat Dawson it would have meant Zippo. Trust me.
#28 - spot on.
#30 - Dawson would have wanted about 80 percent more than Manfredo. Manfredo sold seats - Dawson would need to get a job in a furniture shop to do the same!
I like Dawson but like is not good enough.

Adios.

 

Fair enough points Mr. Bunce but I think Joe sold the seats most of the time.

And with a bit of decent marketing the Dawson fight would've been huge, but as you say, when a man wants to retire, only something truly special will keep him from doing it.

Adios to you:good

 

It just shows how much boxing has to learn about marketing. I remember seeing him live on the undercard of Calzaghe Lacy. Why the fook did they bring the next big thing over to the UK on a big bill like that and not shout about it?

You and I knew him but most of the crowd couldn't give a monkeys. It does annoy me sometimes...

 

atsch

Quit the sarcasm pal, it's doing you no favours. It's occassionally funny if you use it to make a point in one post but to use a sarcastic undertone in every single one effectively makes them tiresome to read and extremely annoying. Just state what your points are and how you came to them. Simple.

 

What do you mean Buncey, in terms of how much money he could have made or enhancing his legacy

I agree it wouldn't have been much of a motivation in terms of money but Joe already has more than enough of this. In terms of legacy I personally think Dawson will go on to achieve great things and effectively a Calzaghe win over Dawson would have done wonders in relation to improving his legacy, especially in the US.