Anyone watch the movie/documentary Tyson?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just got through with watching it, the best thing is its just Tyson talking and clips of him, no one else talking about him. Key points:

    Tyson is an asthmatic and said 'thank god my fights didn't go on too long'

    Tyson blamed Holyfields headbutts for dizzyness. Said he didn't know why he was dazed in the first fight because he wasnt hurt from the punches. He said he worked out in the second fight that he became dazed after headbutts and was puzzled why a taller fighters head would come up below his own head. Said he lost control and wanted to hurt/foul him the way he was getting fouled. Tyson said he was disapointed in himself for losing discipline but not for biting Evander. It showed a load of headbutts in both fights with Tyson being visably hurt by them, I need to watch that again.

    Tyson said he didnt train hard for Douglas or 4fights before that

    Tyson said the only reason for the Lewis bout was money

    Definately an emotional colourful character as ever, cried about the death of Cus and said he didn't care about boxing so much after Cus died
     
  2. Jaws

    Jaws Active Member Full Member

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    It had some interesting segments.

    I thought his commentary on Holyfield II was one of the more interesting parts. I think he was pretty genuine when he claimed he just lost control and simply wanted to hurt him anyway he could.

    Other times I question how genuine he was being. At times he seemed to just come up with stuff to finish a story after he lost his train of thought.

    He also seemed to be brainwashed by his own detractors when he said he was glad his fights didn't go on too long. All of his long fights and decision wins were good/excellent performances. I have never thought of Tyson as a fighter without stamina, at least a well trained Tyson. So I don't really get that statement.
     
  3. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    I enjoyed it but the parts with tyson talking over himself 5 or 6 times was annoying. Tyson talking about his own career was brilliant especially over the thing with his wife basically calling him a woman beater on tv showed what state of mind he was in
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Tyson has proven himself to be a complete liar and degenerate through out his life. He has terrible character that goes far beyond his upbringing ... I don't feel at all bad for him and i don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth ... he is a dispicable human being ...
     
  5. Murali

    Murali Member Full Member

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    I have this movie documentary also. What it highlights to me is what most of us already know about Mike. As a person, he is quite flawed even though he is the product of a very poor upbringing and a victim of society up to a point.

    As a fighter though, he was awesome before his first prison term. It's a real shame he never got to fight Lewis, Holyfield and Bowe when he was in his prime. In my opinion he would have had a very good chance against all of them.

    I agree that Tyson had good stamina against guys like Tucker and Smith. He was still throwing bombs after 12 rounds. And he outpointed these guys clearly. He did look a bit amateruish when he was unable to get his punches off at times but when guys show up to clinch and run repeatedly, there's only so much you can do.

    I particularly disliked the headbutts Holyfield used throughout his career at heavyweight and the fact that Tyson blames these for causing him to black out in the Holyfield fights is one of his more believable claims for sure.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    hes so honest he admits he is a nutcase
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mike always says exactly what hes thinking/feeling without even analysing how someone else may take it, he's 1 of the most honest people in the sport. Thats something apparent throughout, the ****** on here claiming he's dishonest is well a ******, many things Tyson is, but a liar isn't 1 of those. He can embelish the truth.

    It also was interesting that he admitted to selling the Lewis fight, which is what the 'He's not Alexander, I'm Alexander, Im the Greatest, I want to eat his childress, Praise be to Allah' was all about :lol:
     
  8. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    The filmmaker is an avowed Tyson fan, so I'm not going to bother watching it.

    A documentary has to have a substantial amount of objectivity from the filmmaker, or it's just cheap propganda.
     
  9. mochabuzz

    mochabuzz Active Member Full Member

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    It was a good film... quite interesting. The most interesting part was when Tyson spoke about Don King. At one point in his career he confronted King about money & said that he attacked Don King & 'Stomped' him right in front of the Beverly Hills Hotel... I know alot about Tyson but had never heard that particular story. Very interesting....
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its a 2 hour Tyson interview with clips of fights, with Tyson doing his usual first thing that pops into brain comments. Well worth watching, would you rather watch the leeches chatting about Tyson?
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Said he loved King too didnt he, but said Don was 'MF'ing Swine' and all King cared about was money. Said the courts ordered King to pay him a small amount of money ($20m-$30m :lol:)
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The essentials about Mike Tyson you know already, in this media saturated world...all else is trivia.
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    If youve seen Fallen Champ, its basically the same exact footage with Tyson talking instead of the characters that were actually there. I didnt care for it, nothing new, suprised with exception of Tyson saying he didnt train for the Douglas fight, he never really acknowledged the fact his allegiance to Don King and his amatuer friends were a good part of keeping him from accomplishing his full potential.
     
  14. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    I grew tired of Tyson's schtick years ago. Spending two hours watching more of it is a wearisome proposition for me.