Chad Dawson Has the Jermaine Taylor Syndrome!

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  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Both guys are very athletically gifted and have some impressive skills, but something seems to be lacking. I hate to say it because Dawson seems like a great guy just as JT is, but I really see it this way at the moment.

    It's nothing to do with physical conditioning!!! Let me make that clear. It's something mental (ex. nerves) that gets to them and weakens them physically. They both lose focus the longer the fight goes. It's hard to imagine losing focus when the other guy is trying to take you're head off, but they just do not respond well to it.

    Maybe they're just not of the mold of having a killer instinct that might otherwise carry them through the later rounds on adrenaline if nothing else.

    Chad is only 26 yrs old, I know. Still, as we have seen with Taylor, it seems no matter what they try, this problem stays with them. Chad beat Tarver and did what he was supposed to do, but he did nothing to suggest he could ever beat Joe Calzaghe or Bernard Hopkins.

    I wish Chad could somehow magically fix his "problem" just as I do with Jermaine because they are both very naturally gifted but I doubt it will happen. The last ditch effort would be to see a sports psychologist and see if anything can be done for his focus. The thing is though, that when it comes to killer instinct, you either have it or you don't. If you don't, you tend not to be all that exciting. At least not exciting enough to lure a Legend out of retirement!

    Chad has made some improvements in technique, but Jermaine did too after he got stopped by KP and in the end it did not help!

    Now after tonight, it can unequivocally be concluded that anyone who says Joe Calzaghe or Bernard Hopkins is ducking Chad Dawson is an idiot.

    I am not hating on Chad here, just calling it like I see it. I like him and hope I am proven wrong!

    :rasta
     
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  2. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats a good comparison Jeff. Chad and Jermaine are both great guys but do seem to be lacking in fire.

    Good comparison man - unlike the noob who's just called Dawson the "Black Calzaghe" :patsch
     
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  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I saw that thread!:lol: That's ridiculous!!!
     
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  4. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats pretty much how I see it :good
     
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  5. boxingbull

    boxingbull Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berto yes Dawson no
     
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  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Dawson no?:huh
     
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  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are the similarities but way too many differences for it to be concrete.

    The problem with Jermain Taylor is that he doesn't like boxing. A little different from Chad Dawson who seems to enjoy fighting. I also think Dawson may have a learning disability where as Taylor is just dopey.
     
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  8. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Good thread...i agree 100% with you:good
     
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  9. jazzboy

    jazzboy Free Boosie Full Member

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    I dont think Taylor losses focus because of a mental issue but a physical one. Taylor cant breath later on in the fight, so he cant focus on anything but oxygen and can i hold on. Dawson may lose focus because he becomes bored or he know the fight is in hand and there is no reason to push forward.
     
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  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    He can't breath properly because he's a nervous fighter! That what happens when you get that way mentally!
     
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  11. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    damn....never thought about those two being similar like that but now that you bring up somevalid points I have to say I agree. hopefully chad can overcome this....i was always a big Taylor fan and was very disapointed at the end of the Froch fight.
     
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  12. jazzboy

    jazzboy Free Boosie Full Member

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    Yea I could see that man, but damn after all these fights, wars and training, I figure he would be able to calm his nerves. He didnt seem nervous vs Lacy but tired a bit.

    I could see it at the start of the fight but it the same **** every time every fight. I think he just has bad stamina.
     
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  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    That was a massive let down! I like JT and Chad but damn, they're just missing something. Sucks!
     
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  14. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dr Phil is that u????
     
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  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good stuff on this thread between this and the initial post. :good

    I noticed the same thing after the Froch fight, and it's becoming a trend with Taylor- for lack of a better phrase, he's just wound too tightly. It helps him look sharp and explosive in the beginning of fights, but it's too demanding to keep it up for 12 rounds.

    One of the similarities I've noticed between Dawson and Taylor is that it just doesn't look like they're comfortable while they're ahead. I don't know if it's just as simple as lacking a killer instinct or what, but that's caught up to Jermain and I think unless something happens, it's going to catch up to Dawson as he fights better competition sooner or later.
     
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