Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 Atg

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    name a flyweight/bantam champ that had success past 126 division
    name just one...
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Idiot, how does beating worse fighters than he has already beaten get him bumped up an ATG list?
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You've said this over and over again. There are none, we know that.

    Now tell me why beating Valero means Pacquiao moves up three slots, over 3 of the best fighters who ever lived, no less.
     
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    not yet.
     
  5. main man

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    both barrera and Morales were bantamweights and became super feather champs. But of course, pac started from as low as 106 and became champ at lightweight
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it would put a testament that manny pacquiao is one of the best 140 pounder ever
     
  7. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    He beat the reiging long term linial champion in 2 rounnds, beating Bradley or Valero does jack to move him passed two high level ATGs. Hell beating Valero does less than nothing as he is a 135lb fighter moving up not even a belt holder.
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Nice try you fanny. Don't change what you say to suit yourself.
     
  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    beating bradley or valero at 140 would make him legit top 10 140 pounder ever...right now, many do not consider him top 10 ever at 140 pounds
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You need more than two wins at a given weight division to make the top 10 all time for a given weight class. Surely you see that?
     
  11. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    140 is a weak divison. What would it do to move him passed 3 of the best fighters ever?

    This argument is a load of bull. :-(
     
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    Definitely a top10 All Timer....in the making
     
  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes it is a weak division...but it would make pacquiao a better h2h fighter over some other ATGs if he dominated valero and bradley like what he does to hatton..

    beating JMM, cotto, mosley or PBF would make him legit top 12. knocking them out would push him in the top 8
     
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  15. asero

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    right now hatton, tszyu, benitez, delahoya, loi and ortiz ranks higher than pacquiao at 140. beating bradley, pac would surpass all those 140 pounders