Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 Atg

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Can't you SEE the contradiction?!

    You can't BE top 5 at a given weightclass with only two fights there!! FFS, even if he beat Kostya and Eddie Perkins that STILL wouldn't make him top 5 at the weight, and he wouldn't have beat two fighters of that class!

    I'm sorry to pick on you about this but you are now making things up and have to answer for it. If Junior Witter beats Hatton and then Bradley at 140 does he then pass into top 5 all time status at 140?
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if JMM beats bradley or valero, i would say that JMM had already surpassed MAB and EM
     
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    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    benitez and ortiz is in the top 5 right now despite having only three fights at 140
     
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    If you say so!!
     
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    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if JMM beats bradley or valero, marquez surpass barrera, morales, lopez, tyson, trinidad and nelson in my book.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Yeah, but "your book" is for ****.

    And I have no idea why you keep answering my questions about Pacquiao with answers about Marquez and what would happen if fights he hasn't even made go his way :lol:
     
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    not yet. i have pac in the top 30, mid-20s to be more specific.
     
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    if marquez beats valero, you would still put morales and barrera higher than marquez?

    see, if marquez beat valero he would gain grounds on atleast barrera and morales...same with pacquiao, if he beats valero or bradley, he would now be higher than walker and saddler
     
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    :lol::lol:
     
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    benitez has limited stay at 140 yet he is considered top 10 ATG at 140. it's not about resume but skill must also me considered
     
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    Top 10 based on a limited stay, okay, but those include wins over Cervantes, Villa, Petronelli AND he fought at 140 around a dozen times.

    Based on TWO APPEARANCES at the weight, with a level of competition that HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET which WOULDN'T MATCH THAT OF BENITEZ you are trying to force him into a top 5 all time slot :lol:

    It's totall bull****. Nonsense. Paquiao has turned you into another agenda poster who will twist the facts to fit that agenda. Shame.
     
  13. asero

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    benitez fought only four times as a 140 pounder...
     
  14. McGrain

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    No, Boxrec lists him as only having made weight 4 times as a 140 pounder. Depending on how you feel about "over-the-weight" match ups (Ring Magazine felt great about) his number might be even higher.

    Regardlss, Pacquioa HASN'T fought Bradley, he's fought ONCE at that weight, if he fought ONCE MORE at that weight, he aboslutely would not be top 5 all time at that weight. If that's "just your opinion" then rest assured it is a baseless one that helps to paint the picture of your bias.
     
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