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Posted by: Mark Vester on 05-11-2009.

Super middleweight contender Edison Miranda (32-3, 28KOs) plans to crush the career of undefeated Olympian Andre Ward (18-0, 12KOs) when they clash on May 16 in Oakland, California. The fight is by far the biggest of Ward's career. Ward won a gold medal in the 2004 Olympic games. Showtime will televise the fight live.

Miranda says the fight reminds him of the junior middleweight classic between Felix Trinidad and Fernando Vargas. The fight took place in 2000 and saw an undefeated Vargas take a beating before getting stopped in the twelfth and final round. Some say Vargas was never the same fighter after the beating he took from Trinindad. Miranda promises to give Ward the same kind of beating.

"This fight reminds me of Tito Trinidad and Fernando Vargas. Vargas was a very good young fighter but Trinidad was a murderer at the time. It damaged the career of Fernando Vargas. By having that fight so early [in his career] with Trinidad, Vargas was never the same. I think that is the same mistake being committed against Ward, but putting him in with me," Miranda said to El Nuevo Dia.

Miranda says Ward is the same kind of fighter as Allan Green. Miranda holds a decision win over Green from 2007, and that's still the only loss of Green's career. Based on their styles, I don't think Ward and Green are anything alike.

"Ward is a fighter like Allan Green and I know how to beat that kind of fighter. I think it it's going to be a good fight like the one I had against Green. After five or six rounds I will take full control. It is going to end by knockout in 10 rounds," said Miranda.

Miranda has had some tough losses with Kelly Pavlik and Arthur Abraham. He says this time things are different. He had to kill himself to make weight for those fights. This time his body has stuck around the super middleweight limit and he's been training the entire time in Puerto Rico.

"Every time we had a fight I was going to Colombia and was there for two or three months and sometimes I had problems with my visa, had to stay there. I was weighing 240-pounds. I had six weeks to take off over 70-pounds and that was very difficult for me. That struck me in the fights with Pavlik, and Abraham. I had practically given up everything in the gym trying to lose weight. Now I am a boxer, I was training here and I'm in great condition," Miranda said.

"If I win this fight, in three or four months I should be fighting for a championship and I would like to be registered as one of the champions of Puerto Rico because it is not where one is born, but what your heart feels, and I am Puerto Rican. In all of my fights I have the flag of Puerto Rico and I want to be the 59th champion of this country."

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240 lbs?:adminatsch

And how can he say weight killed him with Abraham?
With Pavlik it might affected him but I won't get into that.And saying he stayed around the SMW limit when he weighed in for his last fight at 179.......:nono

catasyou, May 11, 2009

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a floydboy talking bad about floyd

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this day is gonna go down in history :yep
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Floyd boy huh? alright I got you mexicano! July 18th. You know what time it is!

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still think this is a badass video......more boxers should do **** like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7HuQlz0H8

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still think this is a badass video......more boxers should do **** like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7HuQlz0H8
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You notice he mentions he has ''removed Arthur Abraham'' from his path.......How?By losing to him?

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all these posters talkng bout **** him. lmao he would knock you pussies the **** out. He was shitted on by colombians and as a little kid they would not help his black ass out. He went to PR and was embraced and is in awe of their rich boxing heritage. Miranda is not Obama he gets punched in the head for a living. I don't expect Political correctness from a fighter. Let it go.
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Hopefully Ward KTFO of Miranda

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I'm sorry he said that. I was flattered early on when he said he felt Puerto Rico like a second home, but to completely forget where you're fom? I don't think he realizes what he did to most of his Colombian fans.

Zaryu, May 11, 2009

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Perhaps he did alienate his Columbian fanbase but where were they when he was dying of hunger on the side of a road?

I kinda understand his feeling.

h2hkiller, May 11, 2009

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Perhaps he did alienate his Columbian fanbase but where were they when he was dying of hunger on the side of a road?

I kinda understand his feeling.
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This is a ridiculous statement...where were Puerto Rican fans then? he wasn't even a boxer.

I can tell you from experience, a lot of his fanbase in Florida are Colombian and this is a slap in their face. I didn't see ANY PR fans in Florida cheering for him. He may fight in California but when he loses he will have to go back to Florida...and who will cheer him then? :hi:

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he grew up in **** in colombia. i understand this fully. his loyalty is to where he is supported

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GeorgeJ said: ↑

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Posted by: Mark Vester on 05-11-2009.

Super middleweight contender Edison Miranda (32-3, 28KOs) plans to crush the career of undefeated Olympian Andre Ward (18-0, 12KOs) when they clash on May 16 in Oakland, California. The fight is by far the biggest of Ward's career. Ward won a gold medal in the 2004 Olympic games. Showtime will televise the fight live.

Miranda says the fight reminds him of the junior middleweight classic between Felix Trinidad and Fernando Vargas. The fight took place in 2000 and saw an undefeated Vargas take a beating before getting stopped in the twelfth and final round. Some say Vargas was never the same fighter after the beating he took from Trinindad. Miranda promises to give Ward the same kind of beating.

"This fight reminds me of Tito Trinidad and Fernando Vargas. Vargas was a very good young fighter but Trinidad was a murderer at the time. It damaged the career of Fernando Vargas. By having that fight so early [in his career] with Trinidad, Vargas was never the same. I think that is the same mistake being committed against Ward, but putting him in with me," Miranda said to El Nuevo Dia.

Miranda says Ward is the same kind of fighter as Allan Green. Miranda holds a decision win over Green from 2007, and that's still the only loss of Green's career. Based on their styles, I don't think Ward and Green are anything alike.

"Ward is a fighter like Allan Green and I know how to beat that kind of fighter. I think it it's going to be a good fight like the one I had against Green. After five or six rounds I will take full control. It is going to end by knockout in 10 rounds," said Miranda.

Miranda has had some tough losses with Kelly Pavlik and Arthur Abraham. He says this time things are different. He had to kill himself to make weight for those fights. This time his body has stuck around the super middleweight limit and he's been training the entire time in Puerto Rico.

"Every time we had a fight I was going to Colombia and was there for two or three months and sometimes I had problems with my visa, had to stay there. I was weighing 240-pounds. I had six weeks to take off over 70-pounds and that was very difficult for me. That struck me in the fights with Pavlik, and Abraham. I had practically given up everything in the gym trying to lose weight. Now I am a boxer, I was training here and I'm in great condition," Miranda said.

"If I win this fight, in three or four months I should be fighting for a championship and I would like to be registered as one of the champions of Puerto Rico because it is not where one is born, but what your heart feels, and I am Puerto Rican. In all of my fights I have the flag of Puerto Rico and I want to be the 59th champion of this country."

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I was there at Miranda's fight with Green. I was supporting him but I thought we (Puerto Rico & Colombia) had a shared costudy of him :yep anyways, I don't think Ward fights like Green. I think Ward might outpoint him.

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This is a ridiculous statement...where were Puerto Rican fans then? he wasn't even a boxer.

I can tell you from experience, a lot of his fanbase in Florida are Colombian and this is a slap in their face. I didn't see ANY PR fans in Florida cheering for him. He may fight in California but when he loses he will have to go back to Florida...and who will cheer him then? :hi:
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All he will have to do is apologize, as everyone loves their prodigal son.

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You notice he mentions he has ''removed Arthur Abraham'' from his path.......How?By losing to him?
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in his eyes he really beat him..

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**** all that noise. He would have died on the streets of Columbia if he hadn't learned to be a boxer. Columbia does nothing for it's people, there's no reason for them to have allegiance to a piece of cloth (the flag) that means nothing to them. Unless of course, you're one of those right wing ******s who happens to think that some certain piece of dirt is more important and superior to any other because it happened to be where that special peice of joy, YOU, were born.

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**** all that noise. He would have died on the streets of Columbia if he hadn't learned to be a boxer. Columbia does nothing for it's people, there's no reason for them to have allegiance to a piece of cloth (the flag) that means nothing to them. Unless of course, you're one of those right wing ******s who happens to think that some certain piece of dirt is more important and superior to any other because it happened to be where that special peice of joy, YOU, were born.
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Well if you think like a businessman then you know not to **** off your fans. What has PR done for him anyway? teach him the art of punch? he already had that...did they make him a boxer? no...he still lacks defense. Check out his boxrec before you sound ignorant...he fought most if not all his early fights in Colombia. I am glad he found a better place to live and wish him good luck.

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