the funny thing about excuses...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heidegger, May 12, 2009.

  1. heidegger

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NwA_9kPIJU

    Is that they are always there when you lose. Listening to this idiot parrot on, Lee Beard! Lee Beard! Lee Beard! What the hell.

    The way I see it, in any given fight, there will be things in the preparation, or whatever, that went wrong - life has a tendency not to be a relentlees stream of perfection. But these things only become the focus of talk in retrospect, and only after a loss. A win is a win! If Napoleon was still alive he wouldn't sleep at night cause he'd be layin there thinking of what went wrong at Waterloo...
    Hatton lost! Is it really so complicated? :verysad
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    These excuses started on ESB back in 2006 and the whole world has caught on. Once you get into that ring, excuses are out the window.

    People forget that this sport was partly invented to get rid of excuses and settle things mano o mano, ironic indeed.

    For the most part though, its not the fighters making excuses.
     
  3. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Obviously there were a ton of problems in camp.

    Had there not been problems, would Hatton have changed the outcome?

    Hell no.

    So it doesnt matter at this point. He would have just delayed the KO
     
  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    So many excuses flying around for this one it's really pathetic. They don't have Cortez to convince them of one excuse to hug on so they can sleep so they invent excuses themselves.

    It's Mayweather Sr., Hatton wasn't focused, Hatton can beat him but fought wrong, Lee brought complications in training camp, Hatton found running Thursday morning, Graham looking to sue Hatton for 50% of everything he has, Mayweather Sr. wasn't spotted massaging Hatton after he got KO'd in the corner and I'm waiting for more to add IF I missed any.

    Real excuse remains: He fought Manny Pacquiao.
     
  5. heidegger

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    Often it's the fans wanting to protect their OWN ego's, nothing to do with the boxer.

    Gareth Williams claims he changed his mind on the Friday of the fight. Of course you did my son..

    If I had this kind of epiphany based on revealed information, i'd share it before the fight, so I didn't look like a whinging fool after the fight...:huh
     
  6. Barber-ian

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    What annoys me is when people take dumb excuses other people make and somehow pin it to Hatton by association. Everything Hatton has said about the fight that I've read -- and I mean words that have come from his mouth -- have been honest

    He talked about being devastated. About how Manny is a monster. He admitted he fought stupidly, letting his heart take over instead of following the game plan. He's been a man owning up to a terrible, embarrassing loss. That's all that matters.
     
  7. hmm

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    hmm says... nice vid... pretty much agree with most of what everyone is saying so far.
     
  8. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I haven't seen a single post taking this tact. There wouldn't be so much discussion about retirement if people actually thought he could have won.

    I don't think the "bad camp" stuff functions as an excuse more than as a statement of fact. In the video the question is left open... "would it have mattered?" I think it was left open 'cause everyone knows the answer: no, it wouldn't have mattered.
     
  9. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Antonio Tarver would say! "Any more excuses Roy"
     
  10. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    Again, does it really matter what you me, him, her and the guy from mars says?

    The fight's over. Manny won. Hatton owned up to the loss and pinned it on his bad fight and Manny's great abilities and power.

    What more do you want from Hatton -- he should control what other people say?
     
  11. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    fighters always use excuses. It saves face and it allows them to maybe believe the excuse so they can fight on later and know something was wrong with them when they lost. Roberto Duran was the king of excuses. Apparently he never trained for the greatest fighters he ever fought and lost easily, yet he then decided to train for the average guys when he looked good. Yet his fans do not think these are excuses. Unbelievable.
     
  12. heidegger

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    haha. It's probably not in a fighters makeup to admit they just arent good enough to beat somebody. It happens but rarely.
     
  13. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    The reason you watch the fight is to settle the argument.

    Everyone talks for 6 months before the fight giving play by play accounts of what will happen, and then after said fight, there is another 6 months of play by play accounts of what should have happened.

    I don't know where these guys get the energy.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    not even.