Old George Foreman vs. HW Roy Jones

An important part of his defense would also be to move Tyson backwards. Tyson was one of the sharpest and most devastating punchers ever coming forward, going backwards he was far from it.

Tyson is without a doubt the best fighter I would give come-backing George Foreman a good chance against.

 

Then why did he get bloodied up and tatooed all night by Alex Stewart, whom tyson knocked out in one round?

 

How does Tyson knocking out Stewart in one round have anything to do with why George got tagged by him, or Tyson's ability to penetrate Foreman's defense for that matter?

 

Agreed,

Foreman's tendency to push fighters back into midrange might a play a big factor. And with Tyson's broad shoulders being in front of him all night, it might make for a good platform to shove him.

 

Foreman couldn't close in on Morrison who isn't even a boxer. His chin is also crap. Jones has a huge edge on Morrison in the ability to outbox an opponent and Tommy schooled him for 12 rounds.

 

ya i think Roy would dance around the ring in the first round being to fast for Foreman......then Foreman would catch him in the second round.


Anybody below heavyweight facing a prime Foreman would get KOed too.

 

Because Alex Stewart, a B level fighter had no trouble at all penetrating through foremans defense. This leads me to believe Mike Tyson a much better all around puncher than Stewart....Will be able to land at will on foreman.

 

I could envision jones getting in and out with combinations. Foreman was slow and susceptible to speedy boxers and he would definitely have trouble tracking down jones.

The only way that foreman could beat jones at that stage of his career would be to knock him out. There's no way that he could win a decision because he couldn't land frequently enough.

My only question is whether or not jones could take a foreman punch. If he could then he wins a near shutout. If not, then he finds himself coming back to conciousness with smelling salt under hi nose.

 

Again....

Morrison is a big, strong man. His body is designed to take more punishment than Roy's ever could be. And Morrison did what Jones would have to do -stay out of range. And here's the crux. Morrison could hurt George so George had to exercise caution. Roy is not going to hurt George. Therefore George is going to walk him right down and pound him.

 

I see Jones losing to a KO anytime after round 3.

Jones never had the footwork he would need for this one. And he had no Jab, and if he wanted to win this one, that'd be the only punch he should think of. Plus, he wasn't one to box in-and-out stlye. Now, if Mayweather was Jones' size, he could do it. He would just move around for 12 rounds and George would never find him (Corrales would support me on this one, if he still could...) In this case, the huge size/strength differential doesn't come into play, because old Foreman was unbelievably slow. He'd never find a moving target.

But Jones never used his feet over prolongued spans of time. Mostly, at some point once he got comfy, he'd just stand there in the "Jones Stance" (right hand held before half of his face, left hand dangling at the hips) and wait for the other guy to come to him and counter. He even did this against Ruiz, which was at the very least risky. And he had the tendency to get pressed against the ropes. I just don't see Jones not doing these things in a Foreman fight, even whhen facing the possibility of death.

And then there's the cockyness. The apparent ineptness of Foreman would trigger the idiot in Jones. He'd start leading with uppercuts and throwing combinations up close, just to embarass Foreman. And that's when he'd get tagged.

 

I understand your point and see it as a definite possibility, but I think Jones has a great shot at winning a UD. Foreman NEVER walked down a quality fighter in his comeback, expecting him to do it against the fastest man he would ever have faced is wrong imo, even with Jones suspect jaw.

 

Here's the thing you have to look at. If you watch the fight, Stewart is constantly circling to Foreman's right, sticking the jab and even throwing shots while moving backward. When have you ever seen Tyson fight like this? Additionally, Steward matched Foreman in height and knew how to use this to his advantage. I will also ad that the Foreman fight was the very best that I had ever seen Stewart show up both physically and mentally. You could see the confidence in his eyes during the anouncements, whereas as he looks nervous and uneasy against Holyfield and Tyson.

Alex Stewart had nothing in common with Mike Tyson. Tyson's posture and stance fits every bit of the type of profile that Foreman systematically destroyed. Incidentally, despite having a 16 year youth advantage, Foreman still decked Stewart twice, took his best shots, and won a close but deserved decision. There is no way Tyson is standing up in the heat of the kind of adversity that those two men subjected themselves to.

With all said and done, I still favor Mike Tyson to win a 90's match with a 40 year old Foreman. But, to say that Foreman's defense sucked, that he was immobile, threw looping shots, and would not stand a chance against the post Rooney Tyson who lost to James Douglas and barely beat Razor Ruddock does not reflect a vast wealth of knowledge on the man.


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I think Roy Jones would box circles around George Foreman (old version). The fight might be so one-sided as to be comical. Speed and quickness were old George's kryptonite. Holyfield, who easily outboxed and outscored George, would have done the same thing if he had weighed 190 lbs instead of the 208 that he scaled. I think a heavyweight version of Roy Jones would be quick enough, fast enough, and elusive enough to box rings around George.

 

Unbelievable. He does it again.