Boxing writer-You most hate

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  1. killerkai1

    killerkai1 New Member Full Member

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    it's not a secret that Colin Hart of the Sun was no fan of Lennox Lewis but what other boxing writers do you most loath reading or disagree with most:smoke
     
  2. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only one really stands out; Jeff Ryan, who writes for at least one boxing magazine.

    There's only one reason I actually loathe the guy. Back in 1986, Duane Thomas stopped John Mugabi in the third round of their fight for the vacant WBC 154 pound title. One of Thomas' punches apparently broke Mugabi's eye socket, and Mugabi covered his face and leaned over the ropes whereupon the fight was stopped in Thomas' favor. KO Magazine ran a photo of this with the caption underneath, "Where's the Alpo?" referring to Mugabi having a lot of "dog" in him. The accompanying piece was no less scathing, and I was in a rage upon reading it.

    Let's see Ryan pry his fat ass out from behind his peaceful desk and have HIS ****ing eye socket broken. Let him then man up and continue to fight. Let us know how that rolls for you, Jeff. I won't hold my breath, you *****.


    It makes me angry still, 21 years later. I'll never forgive him for that.
     
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  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I remember that issue but I quite like Ryan to be honest (although his scorecards were a bit ****). I agree with the author of this thread and name Colin Hart as the one I dislike most-and Simon Euan Smith, whose man-love for Ali was so embarrassing- he even awarded him Fighter of the Year: 1973. :huh


    Best: Hugh McIlvanney of course. :good
     
  4. killerkai1

    killerkai1 New Member Full Member

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    I actually agreed with Hart's card on the Mercer fight (he scored it a win for Mercer as i did) but he seemed to have a real dislike of lewis, scoring the first holy fight, a draw and then the second a win for Holyfield. he once said that lewis did the minimum to win a fight after the mccall contest that seems unfair?
    ken Jones of the british independent newspaper disliked frank bruno and wrote a famous piece on the eve of the bruno-tyson fight 89 that said bruno was manufactured as a fighter and there was nothing in his record to suggest he could test tyson or even get near winning a world title. But what was in buster douglas record to suggest he could beat Tyson! He always refers to bruno even now as a moderate heavyweight, but what does that make most of the heavies in world boxing today. boxing critics are like film critics they watch so many fights they skeptiscim becomes cynicism. If you watched Ali in his prime, Bruno is rubbish but if just concentrate on the weakness of a fighter you overlook the other qualities he brings, in bruno's case a strongly competitve spirit that Jones overlooked.
     
  5. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have a guess who Mcilvanney had winning Leonard - Hearns I, going into the 13th

    I quite like Dave Anderson, although i have seen him write some **** too
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I confess. I used to purchase the magazines Farhood worked for, but only to look at the pictures!
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Dave "I think Frazier would beat Ali on their best night"* Anderson scored Fight One for Frazier (fair enough) and fight two for Frazier. So there was obvious bias there. Ok, Hugh had Leonard leading when the first Hearns fight was stopped but he also had Leonard losing to Hagler. He was a man who liked his aggression. Anderson may have been similar, but it appeared that he just didn't like Ali or Leonard.






    * He's said this a thousand times. Yeah, we know Dave you've told us before.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Maybe Dave calmed down in his old age. :good
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rich Countis stands at the top insulting the relatives of magazine buyers, completely unprofessional and offensive even to younger readers. Others that come to mind are Farhood the dork, Jim Murray, William Nack. All of them were less writer than they were propogandists.
     
  11. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm really surprised at your Jim Murray choice, rr. He, Red Smith, Pat Putnam, Bob Considine, and one or two others, are not only great boxing writers, they're great writers.

    Any boxing writer you respect would consider them giants.
     
  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The days of the fat, old, smelly boxing writer is over-yesterday's news. He was a cult figure and had a following with the yuppies but Murray is not really a boxing writer; he is an all purpose sports writer/slob/know-it-all but was evident to me he doesn't know much about the sport at all.

    I believe our own Manassa Mauler was and is the real deal. I've read his articles and have become a believer. No ****! The man's a superstar and doesn't know it.


    Another guy with the right stuff was Don Dunfee. It's a shame he never wrote a book.
     
  13. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    ron borges. hate him. i'm a tyson fan and i think this guy lectures a lot is insincere. true, he made a good call on tyson - holy but that deserves no more than 15 minutes of fame.
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    If you guys have read any of my posts, you'll see I really don't hate anybody. I usually find something to like about most people.

    Jeff Ryan is the most annoying writer I can think of by name. I'm in agreement with salsanchezfan.
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm flabbergasted by your response, rr.

    By heaping insults on Jim Murray, is that supposed to lessen his stature as a writer and among his peers? For God sake, man, he was a Pulitzer Prize winner!

    He wasn't good, he was arguably the best -- the Ray Robinson of writers.

    You're gonna be made to feel awfully foolish if you repeat what you say here in a conversation with people who've read his work.