Who Can Pavlik and Abraham Beat at 168?

God knows we've spent enough time debating a Pavlik/Abraham fight, and it seems inevitable that both will move up before to long. Let's see if we can find some common ground. Who can they beat at 168?

We already know they can both beat Miranda, Zuniga, and others on that level. We also know that KP can beat JT, since their rematch was only 2 pounds under the SMW limit.

Andrade and Bika are a handful for anybody. Neither is hard to find. Arthur might end up with some 10-8 rounds that allowed him to take a decision. Pavlik could probably outbox either one, but outboxing people is really not Pavlik's forte'. At some point he'd probably declare war, and then we'd get some serious fireworks, but scoring a KO or TKO over either guy is no easy task.

I think both can beat Froch, but for different reasons. Arthur would beat him because is so damn easy to hit. Pavlik would beat him because styles make fights, and Froch is exactly the kind of fighter that makes KP look like a monster; agressive, poor defense, low guard, poor footwork, slow hands and feet, et.

The other day we had a thread about Pavlik/Bute, and I was surprised by how many people picked KP. PAY ATTENTION! The best southpaw on Pavlik's record to date is the 2006 version of Bronco McKart. Bute is not only a southpaw, he also has very good footwork, and that spells problems for KP. Bute is capable of making AA chase him, and that's never good for Arthur.

In my opinion Kessler would score a WIDE ud over Arthur. The reasons should be obvious. Because styles do make fights, Pavlik/Kessler is a fantastic match up. Some posters disagree with me, but this one pivots around the jabbing contest. Pavlik already went jab for jab with JT twice. Kessler has a fantastic jab. Whoever wins the jabbing contest, which I think is inevitable, controls the fight.

Thought? Opinions?

 

Abraham walks around at about 185, and his problems making 160 are well known.

Pavlik is 6 foot 2 1/2 inches, and llives on cabbage soup the last few days before weigh in.

 

Abraham is 4 and a half inches TALLER than Dwight Muhammed Qawi.

Pavlik is bigger at age 27 than Hopkins was at that age. He is also naturally bigger than Miranda, Taylor, and Zuniga; 3 of his former victims that all campaign at 168. He walks around heavier than Carl Froch.

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

 

Struggles against anyone? And you base that on what? Out of 13 fights above 160, he lost one. Froch is custom made to make Pavlik look good. he's slow, has poor defense, ya can't miss the guy with jabs, et, et. How would Froch win? By getting hit in the head with right hands reatedly? Or by stopping jabs with his face?

 

Pavlik knock Andrade out:think

He might score some kind of TKO, but a straight up knock out is highly unlikely.