Why do people highly rate Duran's win over Leonard?

My bad, I was talking about the popularity of Oscar and Ray. Your right. He is not the best of the four. People really got into Duran due to his longivity I think. Beating Moore and Barkley kept the flame burning and then fights with Camacho and Paz.

 

I think the quality of the win speaks for itself. Not really hard to work out.

 

This thread could only have been made by someone who knows absolutely nothing about that era. Instead of making a thread on something you know nothing about, study the era. Watch the fights of both men before and after these fights, do some reading. Then you will see that Duran's win was worth far more than Leonard's, and that Duran's win was one of the very very best wins in all of boxing history (personally I do rate it as THE best win ever).

 

A Duran slightly past prime moved up 12lb's and beat the consensus second best WW ever - in that WW's absolute prime. That WW also fought a fantastic fight - and would have beaten many, many greats - just not Duran.

It's probably the best win of all time - not too distantly followed by Pep over Saddler.

 

:good

And Greb's win over Tunney.

 

Yeah..

Duran/Leonard
Pep/Saddler
Greb/Tunney
Frazier/Ali
Douglas/Tyson (?)

They're probably good shouts for maybe the best wins in history... Not sure about the last one - big upset.. Not sure if it's a top 5... Can't think of a 5th off the top of my head though.

 

Enjoy amigo:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121937&highlight=wins

 

I remember this.

cheers - I'd forgotten about this.

How annoying that the better threads are forgotten due to the utter tripe made around here.

 

The win is rated high for a few reasons.........
-who he beat and how he beat him
-gave the all-american boy his first lost
-where Duran stood historically at the time of the victory (see below)

Duran: Born June 16, 1951
Beat Leonard: 06-20-1980
Won: WBC Welterweight title
Turned pro in 1968 (12 yr. vet)


After win:
29-30yrs old
71-1 record.
-If he had retired after that win, he would have been considered one of the top 2 greatest fighters of all time (w/ Robinson).

 

"Utter tripe"!

I haven't heard a phrase like that in a long time! Brilliant though.

I can't remember that thread very well, so I had forgotten you were a contributor.

Yeah, I know what you mean. We all get so distracted and worked up arguing about nothing with idiots and waste so much time doing so when there are real threads to be enjoyed.

 

Rupert Giles...

His work should have inspired legends... Instead... He was made to be ridiculed...

Dear Lord.....

 

Leonard wasn't at his best? In what way - precisely?

 

Duran beat Leonard, when both were at their best. Leonard won when Duran was having weight issues. Pac is over-rated.

 

Where would you rank Chico vs Castillo fight.