one last thread about the size difference between PAC and PBF

lets put things in proper perspective.

Pac as recent as just over a year ago was fighting at 130-135 range. while pbf fought at high as 154 almost two years ago. people would insist that there are no sizeable difference in size.

what is important is natural fighting weight, the ability to carry such weight and still retain power and speed. some fans here insist that is ok when in fact it is not. if it were, why the hel did PBF and Jmm agree on a catchweight when jmm is truly within pacs fighting weight range.

tito and dlh went up against bhop and you can argue that there is not much difference in size, but we all know what happened to those 2 fights.

 

hmm, if that is the case, why can't you ask valero who is fighting at 135 to go up at 147 and fight PBF/Cotto/Mosley?

pac/jmm/valero are the same size, weight range etc. but i do not recall you asking PBF to fight your idol.

 

go look up the tale of the tape.. the size difference is small

 

He'd do it. His concussive power alone is enough to carry him against bigger men, and his pure physical strength is insane for a LW.

 

The size between Valero and someone of Floyd's size is not much.

Floyd wins because of skill, not size. Basically, he's too fuk'n good!:smoke

 

Good excuses for why Pac will lose. Sorry, but it's all about skills!

:rasta

 

i have seen the tale of the tape and what is small is relative. in the same manner that the size difference between Bhop and dlh/tito is small, but look at what happened.

size difference, like 2 inches in height, 5 inches in reach etc. has far more significant impact in the lower weights because power, punch resistance can be calibrated based on your natural size.

size difference is not the important the heavyweights/light heavyweights because the power these generate can KO anyone and hence punch resistance is not that important anymore.

that is the case when rhaman, who was extremely short compared to lewis KO out the latter when he caught him flush. in the same manner, rahman was knocked out by lewis in the rematch. tyson, was only 5'10, 5'11 at best but knocked out opponents far bigger than him.

that is because, simply it is not humanly possible to withstand the power generated by the heavy, despite being a heavyweight yourself.

but in the lower weights, size is a far more important commodity, reach a differentiating factor etc. etc. etc.

pac=jmm in size, incontrovertible.
jmm<pbf, that is why there is a catchweight.

how can people then insist that pbf=pac?

simple mathematical equation on commutative properties of number.

if a=b, b=c, then a=c, correct. if
pac=jmm, but jmm<pbf, how the hell can people insist that pac=pbf? :huh

 

Pacman has actually fought someone very similar in dimensions to Floyd but different in weight ofcourse.

He was a little past his best aswell but Morales and Floyd are exactly 5"8 and with reaches of 72 inches each.

thats a big reason why El Terrible was so freaking good , his reach of 72inches is really a big advantage for someone fighting so low at 122-130

 

actually, morales is in the 5'7 range whereas pbf is listed at 5'8.5.
and that is precisely why morales eventually lost since his body cannot take the burden of draining to reach 130. the 3rd pac-em fight clearly took a toll on him as it was a weight that was really difficult for him to fight in but at the same time his body was not fit/young enough to go up to 135/140.

we are talking here about pbf who can comfortably fight at 154 or 147. pbf started at 130, at 154, that is a jump of 24 pounds. pac fought at 106, and even for argument sake, lets say hes body started to mature at weight of 116. 116-147, that is a jump of 31 pounds. 41 pounds if you count it at 106.

by analogy, pbf should be fighting at 170 if were to impose upon pac the burder of fighting someone at that weight. double standards. you ask pac to come up 35-40 pounds in weight but for pbf, 25 pounds is enough? with the way he can carry his weight, he should be fighting at 167 for goodness sake. :bbb

 

floyd has weighed not more than 150 during his fights even against oscar. pac has weighed 148 and 148.5 during his most recent fights. but floyd is still the naturally bigger guy having started at a much higher weight than pac. so, floyd will have the advantage in strength, height and reach although the actual advantage in weight is not that much.

 

same size huh, pac=jmm. and you insist that pac=pbf in terms of size.

why is it that they are fighting at a catchweight of 143/144 again?

 

Well according to Pac fans, Pac beat a solid Oscar who wasnt weight drained and not too far past his prime so he should have no problem with FLoyd.

 

:good people are focusing too much in weight. its about size, size.

pbf is taller, longer reach, and weighs more and has been fighting at that weight for a long time.

as much as a pbf fan as i am, i cannot fathom some nuthuggers here there reasoning that pac is same size as pbf.

 

A lot of people may not realize it because they did not do fight night weights for ODLH/Floyd but Floyd imo actually came into the ring at 148, less than Pac who was 148.5! lol

 

currently, pac is now the bigger fighter compared to jmm. jmm weighed 140 during his last fight while pac weighed 148.