Why do Asian fighters have such great hand speed? Pacquiao, Khan

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  1. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pakistan , South Asia

    Philippines, South East Asia
     
  2. Arka

    Arka New Member Full Member

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    What point,if any, are you trying to make Darni?

    Westerners do not classify Pakistan as being part of South East Asia(and it's just that a classification)

    It is also a vast distance away from the Philippines.
     
  3. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Coast to Coast USA is somthing like 3000
    miles. Its still USA

    U.K to Russia somthing like 3000 miles but still classed as Europe.

    Distance does not mean Pak or Phil are not in Asia check the map please or go to school.
     
  4. freddy-wak

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  5. GalangK

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    Wrong classification.

    The UK has more in common with France than the Philippines does with Pakistan (much less UK based Pakistani fighters). Its just as ludicrous as me saying why do Anglo-Franco fighters have such great power and only give you David Haye and Jean-Marc Mormeck as examples.
     
  6. Arka

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    Dude.Just because Westerners have a term to put them in a single box- Asian -means **** all about the underlying reality.
    You've got to get that in your head.

    The piece of land,which we call Pakistan,historically has far easier land and sea access to Europe than to the Philippines.There was a significant transfer of population from Central Asia and Europe to Pakistan over the millenia.The same cannot be said about the Philippines and Pakistan.That is why the question of distance is relevant.


    From the genetic studies it seems that Manny's ancestors,before the Spanish conquest,would be Austronesian(related to Maori,Samoan,Tongan) and a later mixture of Asian(related to Chinese,Japanese,Inuit etc etc).

    Amir Khan's "bloodline" ,so to speak,would be far nearer Central European than to anything Asian(ie Chinese or Filipino)

    This is the reason people are finding your question rather strange.

    Here is a family tree of the different human population groups and some of their offshoots:

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  7. bulldogger

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    Real question is why out of all the Asian fighters are only 2 considered to have fast hands??????
     
  8. Brickhaus

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    Not to even mention that Pakistans generally are ethnogenetically closer to Europeans than East Asians.
     
  9. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But didn't Indians and Arabs migrate to Phillipines etc before the spanish?
     
  10. mountaintrekk

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    Because I can't be racist to myself, as I am a South Asian in geographical terms, and an Asian in the broader map. But as a Gurkha, I can claim that I am one of the best warriors in the world, anything but feeble. Not a steriotype, is it? In general though, S Asians are physically weaker. Khan's poor chin, may have correlation.

    This Darni boy goes nuts to make a case for Khan. This has got to be the biggest wind up he has ever tried. Saying so, Khan indeed has amazing speed. But it has got absolutely nothing to do with pacquiao.
     
  11. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is nonsense

    How do you explain indian wrestlers destroying western wrestlers?

    It also interesting that Ghurkhas claim descent from the Hindu Rajputs and Brahmins of Northern India, who entered modern Nepal from the west. Guru Gorkhanath had a Rajput Prince-disciple, the legendary Bappa Rawal, born Prince Kalbhoj/Prince Shailadhish, founder of the Royal house of Mewar, who became the first Gurkha and is said to be the ancestor of the present Royal family of Nepal.
     
  12. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    According to your chart philippinos arent even asian they are austronesian. WTF, they are more related to samoans?
     
  13. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i hope you werent serious with this....
     
  14. GalangK

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    Filipinos are hard to categorize. Some people place them with the Austronesian group while others place them with the East Asian group.

    Mind you I think we have a lot more in common with some Polynesian islanders than we do with the Japanese.
     
  15. Arka

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    Hmmm....how large was the emigration? Certainly,there was cultural influences,trading and proselytizing going on for centuries between the Philippines and India(Hindu and later Muslim) and Arabia(Muslim).

    Maybe it was the centuries of Spanish colonization which first lead to significant population migrations and intermingling of non-Asian races with the Philippine population?