Froch in talks with Bute.

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  1. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I didn't underestimate Froch. Taylor surprised me in a bad way. Froch did all he had to do. He was down and stood up. He recovered and slowly took back the momentum of the fight. But at the other end, Taylor did what he had to at the beginning of the fight and slowly faded. He was not able to maintain what he began to do. Froch is wiser than him in that domain. Bute is not like Taylor. He is good in adapting to his opponent. So, if he has the advantage on Froch early on, he won't lose it. Yo can't copy-paste Taylor-Froch to get the result of Bute-Froch. unfortunately for you.
     
  2. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch will win by KO or TKO,and when he does we'll get the excuse's.Everyone knows Taylor beat Froch,but fell over in the last round.:rofl
     
  3. laffie

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    i hope for Froch he learned more of the Taylor fight than you did. You sound like if Froch had dominated the fight all night long. He didn't. He went down and lost more rounds than he won. If you want to call the reality excuses, I'll leave you in your fantasy world.
     
  4. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets get the facts straight first.Taylor was leading on two scorecards going into the last round,but he was behind on one card.A large majority of the media at ringside had the fight level and/or Taylor 1 point in front or 1 point behind.Taylor won the first two rounds,and had he not dropped Froch in the third it would/should/could have been a shared round.Taylors workrate was slowing from round 5,and he was obvously winning rounds by throwing a few eye catching punches in the last 15 seconds of the rounds if two judges had him winning by such margins entering the 12th.The REALITY is,it was a close fight and Taylor got KO'D near the end due to a combination of tiredness and Frochs pressure from the 10th onwards.If you seriously believe Froch was never in the fight till the stoppage then its you who has a problem with REALITY.

    P.S if you think Froch was at his best in the Taylor fight then you are another who's vast knowledge of Frochs faults has been based purely on his last two fights.

    Please feel free to reply/comment on my views,but leaving silly comments at the end of your post (i'll leave you in our fantasy world) is really very unecessary,and pretty childish.
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I've written substantially the same thing as you did about the fight. I saw it the same way you did. I didn't say Froch was outclassed, I said Froch didn't outclass Taylor.

    Do you agree?
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People can *****/whine/hate Froch but the one thing everyone should identify with is Froch's drive to fight the best availible.

    Agree, great match-up, here's hoping.
     
  7. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    When fans of two different boxers hope the same thing, that means a great fight can happen. :thumbsup
     
  8. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I absolutely agree,Froch was poor on the night,but he found a way to win.
     
  9. laffie

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    Why do you think he was poor on that night? I would think Taylor made him look poor and Froch had to wait Taylor to lose some speed to be able to play his game, but what is your opinion on that?

    By the way, sorry for the other post, I thought you were a nuthugger like some other posters. My fault.
     
  10. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bute UD. have seen froch about 4 times now. Bute about 10. i see nothing in Froch that Bute can't handle. he is the much better boxer.
     
  11. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    He was poor during the first half of the fight as he was too tentative,probably a combination of nerves and that Taylor was countering so effectively.

    I've followed Froch since his pro debut and have seen all but one of his fights either live or on tv so I know his strengths and weakness pretty well i think. His main weakness is a low workrate,which was fine against British opposition because he was always able to KO them eventually. Against world class fighters though he MUST address this(although to be fair v Pascal he did set a very good pace throughout)
     
  12. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apology accepted :good

    Whilst Froch is noted for his honesty,im not sure he was as confident as he said he was prior to the fight.It was clear that he was very nervous during the ring entrance and looked very edgy whilst the ref gave his instructions.Froch seems to feel his way into fights by pawing and feinting,but Taylor was a step up in class,and obviously Froch had to be careful whilst he tried to settle into the fight.Froch did look to be gaining in confidence in the 3rd and as a result left him self wide open as he started trying to catch Taylor.I personally think the knockdown did Froch some good,he certainly backed off and rethought his game plan.
    I'm sure Froch would have learn't a lot from the Taylor fight,i also believe his confidence and composure will be better next time out.Contrary to what some believe,Froch can box and has a very useful jab.He does look "awkward" and unorthodox,but that is the way he fights,and so far its served him well.I'd be stupid to suggest that he can be a silky smooth and technically proficient boxer,but his awkwardness,strength,and determination make him more than a handful for any fighter at 168.Lets hope the Bute fight happens,but as we know the haters will just find fault with Bute if Froch did beat him.
     
  13. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    im agree with you but do you think the fact that JT got so poor stamina help Froch getting back in the fight (it's not like he was outclassed but JT got the better of the 5 first round )

    i think those first round will be benefic fur Froch in the futur and it's understable to be nervous with that kind of pressure (lot to proof , PPV in US ,etc..).
     
  14. Vitor Belfort

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    nice but where the hell is kessler? Froch vs Kessler needs to happen:good
     
  15. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't think it was so much a stamina problem for Taylor but that Froch appears to get stronger as the fight goes on. He certainly wore Taylor down with his big shots in the second half of the fight. Even so, taylor was better than I thought he'd be.