Marquez-Pacquaio I and II. Who won them?

whatever the final record says..

 

Pac won both by a point - and I had a decent bet on Marquez for #2. The "robbery" fantasy of Marquez fans is hysterical. It just burns their balls and 2 inch dicks off that their man lost BOTH fights by a *single* point.

Pwned.

 

1st fight - Pacquiao by 1 or 2 points
2nd fight - Marquez by 1 point

 

#1 JMM 113-112
#2 Pac 114-113

 

9-3 Marquez for the first fight is an absolutely abysmal scorecard. You are either a biased hater or a severe '****. I don't have a problem with anyone scoring that fight for JMM, it was very close and I can well understand why some would score it for him, but there is no way on Earth scoring 9 rounds his way for that fight can be justified. I suggest you watch the entire fight again with an open mind, and stop clinging to this fake memory of how it was a 'schooling'. I am a Marquez fan and I think he won the second fight, but that scorecard is embarrassing.

 

Again ????

 

We must simply have a totally different way of scoring fights. I just don't see that at all.

 

Are you suggesting that I'm not?

I despise Antonio Tarver and adore Roy Jones, but I scored their first fight for Tarver by a point or two.

I have watched Pac-Marquez I many times as I had a big argument with Selfkill about it a while back, and I genuinely do not see all these clean and effective outlanding and outscoring rounds for Marquez. I do in the second fight, but not in the first. Almost every round is close, I think I had about five rounds out of the twelve even. I know that's a lot, but I refuse to arbitrarily award a round to a man I do not believe had a genuine edge over the three minutes just to avoid a 10-10. I am also honest. It's a principle of scoring that I know sweet_scientist for one shares.

 

Listen that first fight is ****ing hard to score. I gave JMM 7 rounds and Pac 5 rounds. One judge gave JMM 10 rounds and Pac 2 rounds, one judge gave Pac 7 rounds and JMM 5 rounds. Its a ****ing hard fight to score. None of the judges we corrupt, they all scored to the best of their ability.

The third judge gave JMM 7 rounds, and Pac 5, but didn't count one of the knockdowns. Hence the draw.

 

That's how I had em:bbb

 

Had first fight a draw 114-114. I did post my scorecard on one of the past threads bout this but can't be bothered to go find it now

2nd i thought jmm won by 1 or 2 points.

Both fights so close defo want to see a 3rd fight to settle this, tho think pac might just take it, seems to have grown with the weight well and would have to assume it at 140. JMM despite 2 great wins seems to have tried to become a more offensive exciting fighter at LW in response to losing the decision vs pac. As a result is taking more punches than ever before and this could be his undoing vs pac