Pacquiao Can be Outboxed, he is no Floyd Mayweather Jnr

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by trampie, May 15, 2009.

  1. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,863
    Likes Received:
    1
    agree.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    76,131
    Likes Received:
    2,773
    That's what makes this fight interested and the reason why Mayweather returned. We will find out soon I'm sure.
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    27,388
    Likes Received:
    2
    All these people talking about Mayweather running are full of it. You box to win. It may not be fan friendly, but this is sport. Also, anyone knows that Zab's lead right was one of the fastest in the game. (He put Mayweather on the floor with it!) To say he can't handle a fast jab is foolish.

    People let hating a man's persona translate into downplaying his fighting skill. Don't confuse the two. I think Mayweather should have done more at welter too so don't go saying I am just some blind follower, but at the end of the day his talent can't be denied.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    79,438
    Likes Received:
    2,647
    personally, I have nothing against Floyd's persona. I judge boxers by what they do in the ring.
     
  5. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest


    First off, you have no credibility on the subject of Pacquiao because you ranked him around 120th in your abysmal top 400, around 70 places behind your beloved Joe Calzaghe. Not even Enzo Calzaghe would have anything like that gap between those two guys.


    Secondly, I posted this on another thread earlier and I think it is pertinent here too, so here's a copy:


    And lastly, this comment in particular is a nonsense:

    If your ratings are ever to have any credibility, you can't make statements like this. You are basically saying, I like Mayweather more so I'm ranking him higher. That's infantile and irrational.

    What if Mayweather loses to Marquez, or even just scrapes a decision against him but looks bad doing so, and retires again for good.

    Meanwhile, Pacquiao beats Marquez, then Cotto, and then maybe someone like Mosley or even Vernon Forrest at lmw, maybe Edwin Valero too. Say Pacquiao continues for another three years, continues his stunning form, and retires as a SEVEN weight world champion, first flyweight world champ in history to win titles at lightweight and beyond, and with an absolutely glittering resume of all the best fighters from superfeather to welter built up over the course of a decade.

    Would this statement still apply:

    Of course not. Pac already has a better resume and better weight-jumping achievements, and if he continues to widen these gaps then the only reason you could possibly have for still having Floyd higher would be your own personal preference. But if you are talking about rankings and the like, your personal preference has to be shelved for the credibility of the list, otherwise the list is meaningless and is just a list of your favourites. Be objective and analytical, or be honest but don't talk about rankings and lists if you are not capable of forming them properly.
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    48,204
    Likes Received:
    9
    I've been saying it all along. Who is gonna outbox who? Pac over Floyd, sure. Floyd is too smart, he ain't gonna fall for Manny's bs. Floyd will win.
     
  7. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Man, that's some seriously deep analysis there. You're deep. Fanatically deep.
     
  8. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2009
    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    0
    and so is manny..whether you like him or not..
     
  9. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2007
    Messages:
    22,883
    Likes Received:
    1
    Floyd fans like Pac but Pac fans give no credit to Floyd. This has always been the case. But if Marquez and his style was Pac's Kryptoniam then Floyd will pick up where he left off. This is no easy fight for either guy.
     
  10. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    51,700
    Likes Received:
    17,231
    floyd winning in a UD against Pac would be dissapointing.
     
  11. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    34,796
    Likes Received:
    66
    Floyd sure is overrated.
     
  12. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    48,204
    Likes Received:
    9
    Thanks, man!:good Much appreciated.
     
  13. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2008
    Messages:
    27,684
    Likes Received:
    7
    Agreed.

    Mayweather is a superb fighter, but he hasn't dared to be the best he can be. Manny Pacquiao is truth positive.
     
  14. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    65,862
    Likes Received:
    16
    your generalizing

    i've seen plenty of Floyd fans who dont give Pac credit too

    it works both ways.
     
  15. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    7,856
    Likes Received:
    0
    wow. didn't expect this from you :good

    you're right, he's a superb fighter, one of the best if not the best of our generation. too bad he retired without showing us how great he is. actually, i'll pick him over the top welters (cotto, mosley, margo) but he didn't fight them. the only fighter that i think may give him problems is pw, but he's not a selter anymore