If Floyd beats Marquez, PAc has no choice but to fight Floyd, or be ridiculed by me.

You love what lol...:nut

 

I don't know why I got this response nor do I know who the hell that poster is. That poster needs to wake the **** up.

Roach made it clear they're staying at 140 and Cotto recently announced he's planning to move down to make it happen. All this "natural WW" doesn't mean jack in this discussion.

 

Mosley was called out, turned it down.

Cotto was a new Welter at the time.

Margarito was coming off a loss to Williams and his biggest win back then was Manuel Gomez. If that's not tomato can material then what is?

Only name worth mentioning was Paul Williams. Might want to respond to my post rather than come up with meaningless one-liners in attempts to continue playing stubborn despite being proven wrong. Otherwise you look like nothing but a troll.

 

Sorry, but Pac fans can't talk considering he fought Diaz instead of Campbell for his lw title lol. Floyd fought the champ who had all the titles. Floyd can still fight any of the ww's. Floyd just wants super fights, he lined them up and knocked them down at 130 already, so why should he do that at 147? It isn't like PAc is going to line them up at 140 and fight them lol...

 

I answerd your Q, Go fish!

 

No you didn't.

 

I didn't start watching boxing in 2006, I've said MANY times that Floyd earned his way to the P4P #1 status, he worked hard and proved himself time and time again until he got what he had been fighting for all those years. But even Floyd's biggest fans have to take a step back and realize that once Floyd got to that throne, he pretty much decided to do what was necessary to make sure he never had to give it up. That's why when there was genuine pressure for him to fight Margarito for 8 millions dollars, he took a fight NO ONE wanted to see against Baldomir, for a whopping one dollar more. Keep in mind, even I as someone who respects Floyd but doesn't like him that much, even I have to think that Floyd would have beaten Margarito if they had fought back in 2006. He wouldn't have whooped his ass like Shane did, but I have a hard time imagining a Margarito victory over Floyd any day of the week.

I'm screaming for a Floyd vs Cotto fight now, but the general boxing public most certainly was screaming for it back when Floyd retired. Most people really wanted to see him fight Cotto or Margarito, so Floyd starts talking DLH or Hatton rematch. There was ZERO pressure or interest in Mayweather vs Pacquiao or Marquez fights when Floyd retired. If after beating Hatton, Floyd had said, "yeah, I'm fighting Marquez next!!!" people would have been aghast. Same thing if he had said Pacquiao. So he retires, waits around until Cotto gets beat by Margarito, then Margarito is destroyed by Mosley, and all of a sudden he's coming back to fight Marquez then Pacquaio.


I'm a huge Mosley fan but no doubt he turned the Mayweather fight down in late 2006. It was because his promoter told him he wanted to fight Floyd first, but it's still a fact. But Shane contacted Floyd in February and Floyd himself told him he wasn't interested in the fight right now. Might want to do a bit of fact checking before calling people more informed than yourself ******s. Look, I'm not the one telling people Manny and Marquez are too small for Floyd, ****ing FLOYD came right out and has said it to anyone he sees holding a camera or pen. Just like he came right out and told the world he was an A Class fighter, Gatti was a D Class fighter before they fought. Because Floyd is stupid as hell. He beats the hell out of Gatti and starts crying in the ring, and it's like, what's the big deal?? You just schooled a dude you classified as a D Class fighter. Pacquaio's my favorite fighter but Floyd should definitely be the favorite if they fought. Floyd's a great fighter, I have no delusions about that. But he insists on taking the credit away from himself by not shutting the **** up when he should, telling everyone he's coming out of retirement to fight two straight guys he's said are too small for him.

 

Floyd fought Baldomir in November of 2006. Margarito didn't lose to Williams until the summer of 2007. Once again, take off the Floyd-colored glasses and get your facts straight.

 

So Pac is expected to fight everyone in his move up, But Floyd just set's up the "Supers"...:-(

 

The comments here once again prove your knowledge is 2006 and not 2001 as you claim. Baldomir is a fight no one wanted?, how exactly?

Mayweather turned down Margarito's offer, which was $7 million by the way if you look deeper into it to take on Baldomir for $8 million. Baldomir is a fight no one wanted?, says who?, you?

Baldomir was #1 rated and official best Welterweight. If that's a fight no one wanted then care to explain the PPV buys it generated?, also Mayweather's move to Welterweight wasn't to fight Manuel Gomez or Andrew "Six heads zero chins" Lewis, it was for the unified undisputed champion Zab Judah, a fight the entire boxing public wanted badly and voted MORE for it than a fight with Hatton at 140. Judah losing to Baldomir is NOT Mayweather's fault, this isn't a popularity contest, it's not UFC or WWE it's a sport where anyone can win and Baldomir pulled it off over Judah. Does that mean we shouldn't rate Baldomir because he's not promoted as Judah was?, only newbies in the sport would think that way.

Your screams for a Cotto fight are meaningless, even Cotto his self is showing more interest in fighting Pac than Mayweather. Cotto is a guy who is better off having a rematch with Mosley to settle things and soon rematch Margarito to avenge a loss.

The fans who wanted him to fight Margarito were idiotic, Margarito coming off a loss to Williams and running away literally from career high paydays to avenge a loss is not someone to invest time in unless you're in Bob Arum's stable and following the script like a puppet. Cotto's claims of wanting to fight Mayweather only started when Mayweather announced his retirement, before that his comments were "Not ready yet, still a new Welter", even Cotto and his team admitted that they will only confirm they're ready for Mayweather IF he beats Mosley.

If you can't see the reason behind his return then you have issues. Margarito/Cotto/Mosley weren't close to #1 P4P and weren't even considered to be getting anywhere near that. You honestly think that a fight with Cotto/Margarito/Mosley would be as big as a fight with Pacquiao?, if so then I would highly suggest you learn more about the sport.

Fighting Marquez who is also #2 P4P after 2 years out of the sport isn't bad at all. I didn't see the likes of you complaining about Cotto fighting Gomez or Margarito making a career fighting likes of Golden Johnson. Care to explain?

Mosley is an all-time favorite of mine and one of the reasons behind my interest in the sport, I wouldn't bash on him without facts unlike the likes of you who would type in rubbish without having any knowledge whatsoever. Do you even know, Mr. I started watching boxing in 2001, that Mosley was called out in 2006 and PUBLICLY turned it down to clear the way for DLH?

Do you also know that Mayweather called out Mosley February OF THIS YEAR and got turned down?

Google should be your friend, I'm not here to educate people who claim to know stuff when in reality they seem to be missing on a lot. :good

 

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This has nothing to do with the Baldomir fight, my comments there are CLEARLY regarding the time Mayweather retired. Let me make things worse for you, at the time when Baldomir/Mayweather happened Margarito was coming off a magnificent win in a failing PPV that made $32K buys over Manuel "9 losses unraked" Gomez. That's even worse than coming off a loss to Williams.

You bash on Mayweather for fighting Baldomir who was officially recognized as the lineal undisputed WW champion but it's okay for Margarito to make title defenses against unranked guys like Gomez and guys like Andrew Lewis. :nut

 

Scar, first off, I meant to type I'm NOT screaming for a Cotto fight now, but the boxing public WAS back when Floyd retired. That taken care of, AGAIN, get your ****ign facts straight. Floyd fought Baldomir back in November of 2006, when people wanted to see him fight Margarito. Margarito didn't lose to Williams until summer of 2007. Let's take this nice and slow for you, ok Scar> 2007 came AFTER the year 2006, so saying Floyd shouldn't have fought Margarito in 2006 because he was coming off a loss to Williams that DIDN'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL 6 OR 7 MONTHS AFTER THE BALDOMIR FIGHT IS ******ED. Can you count? Unless Floyd had a time machine, there is literally no way he chose to fight Baldomir because Margarito lost to Williams. Does ANY of that make sense? See, numbers go up in increasing increments when talking about years. 6, 7, 8. They should have taught you this **** in school. Even ****** school which you obviously had trouble with.

 

pac doesnt need to fight floyd for less than the lions share of the purse. his career is an amazing accomplishment with or without mayweather. he is #1 p4p not because floyd vacated but because he earned it in a more dificult and more spectacular fashion than floyd did. it was more of an achievement for him to beat the guys he beat while comming from the weight he was comming from than it was for floyd comming from the weight he came from.
pac is the bigger draw outside of the black community and both of their upcomming fights will prove this so even with jmm drawing all the mexican buys.
i would love to see this fight but even if it doesnt happen i have no doubt pac will be ranked higher atg than floyd. floyd needs to beat pac to be ranked higher while pac only needs to beat a top welter. the window of opportunity is closing for floyd and i have a feeling he is going to go out in a roy jones fashion.
if legacy is more important to floyd then the fight will get made. if money is more important then he should price himself out and cut off his nose to spite his face.

 

The people who wanted him to fight Margarito are the same people that wanted him to fight Vivian Harris at 140, if you think those people matter then you need a reality check. Margarito's biggest wins at the time were Manuel Gomez and Kermit Cintron, compare that with Baldomir's wins over Clottey, Judah and Gatti. Baldomir's win over Judah all alone at the time wipes the floor with Margarito's career.

My claims about Floyd not fighting Margarito because he was coming off a loss to Williams is regarding the time when Mayweather retired, NOT when he lost to Baldomir. Are you guys that slow or you have problems reading?