Just Re-watched Hatton vs Tszyu

How old are you? Is it really that hard to understand? Essentially NO ONE is still in their prime in their mid-30s. When ANY fighter is competing in his mid-30s he is no longer in his prime. May not be the case in other fields of endeavor .. it is in boxing (and baseball, football, basketball, tennis, golf, running, etc.).

 

it's not like Tszyu was gonna say 'yeah i'm well past my best but never mind'..........of more signifigance was that he announced his retirement after the Mitchell rematch..........but was dragged out of that by the financial offer from Warren to take part in that set-up fight with Hatton. That was a retirement pot and Tszyu knew he was well past it.....**** he didn't even make weight on the scales first time round.

 

Of course. Most great fighters accept matchups at the end of their career when the cards are looking stacked against them or their best days have long since passed to further feather their personal or family's nest.

It is not remarkable how many less than elite fighters happen to be the right guy at the right time to pick the carcass of a guy who would have sent them on an early ambulance ride to the hospital in their prime.

It is remarkable how many fans of these fighters think age is less than relevant or not a substantive factor in the win.

 

Hatton's referee was on Hatton's side. Hatton held way too much.

 

It's kinda Bernard Hopkins fault!

 

True!!!

Absolutely right.:good

BHOP is an anomaly in that he is still able to fight at a high level while physically far, far past prime.

"Success" in his old age has allowed some to give him a bit too much credit without careful consideration of the comp (e.g., Bernard continues to be ranked highly on many P4P lists).

Personally, I have never considered BHOP to really be the LHW champ off of the one-off with Tarver (I have NEVER considered Calzaghe to be the LHW anything off of his slight points win over ancient Bernard and his victory over Roy Shot Jones and definitely Joe should not have been on any P4P list either - IMO).


Some of BHOP's rec post-prime starting with the Trinidad fight for the hell of it:

36 1/2 years of age fought a "smaller" guy in Trinidad who started his career at junior welter weight and was basically fighting his second fight ever at middleweight

37 years of age fought Carl Daniels who wasn't all that good and had spent as much of his career as a welterweight & junior middleweight as middleweight up to that point.

38 years of age fought Morrade Hakkar a career middleweight but a fighter completely out of his depth (i.e., he's a bum).

39 years of age fought William Joppy who, while a career middleweight (with some success), had also been starched by Felix Trinidad and looked mediocre versus Howard Eastman in his preceding fights.

39 1/2 years of age fought Robert Allen for the third time - he had already been there and done that.

39 1/2 years of age fought Oscar Dela Hoya a career lightweight/welterweight who had really lost his last two fights and his only fight at middleweight to Felix Sturm preceding this mismatch.

40 years of age fought Howard Eastman who, while a pretty good fighter, was 34 and not exactly young.

40 1/2 years of age fought Jermaine Taylor and struggled with Taylor's youth.

41 years of age fought Jermaine Taylor and struggled with Taylor's youth.

41 and 1/2 years of age fought Antonio Tarver who was almost 38 (OLD) and may have been drained from his own recent weight fluctuations as he seemed especially listless.

42 years of age fought Winky Wright who was almost 37 (OLD) and was a career junior middleweight with more than 55 fights.

43 years of age fought Joe Calzaghe who was 36 (OLD).

44 years of age fought Kelly Pavlik and shut him out.


Maybe it is Pavlik's fault too?





Bernard has had a great run and is definitely an ATG. He has been running on fumes though and his post-prime list of opponents looks good on paper (and it is good if you are that much older than ALL OF THEM) but his performances certainly demonstrate that he is very far from his prime.

I hope Bernard knows his limitations and calls it a career at exactly the right time. If any old-timer is gonna get to keep the wool over everyone's eyes at the very end of a long career let it be Bernard. At least with him it is believable. :bbb

 

Tszyu hit him with TWO low blows, and who are you to say they were unintetional, Tszyus hardly the cleanest fighter on the planet, have you seen his 1st fight with mitchell, after the fight he admitted in his documentary he expected to have points taken off but it was part of his game plan

 

:rofl Are you serious, read the post above :nut

 

Tsyzu did'nt know where to land a good punch, he's so desperate that makes him tired and not able to go on the next round.

 

That's because Hatton proved to be garbage like his fans. These guys will talk day and night about how Hatton got screwed by Cortez like the tactics he applied against Tszyu were all fair and good. atsch

And you have a ******s in this thread claiming Hatton applied smart and excellent tactics. Not surprised considering the guys they watch over there are guys like Froch.

 

Yes I have seen the fight with Mitchell, Mitchell made it a close fight a lot, everytime Tszyu got to position his self Mitchell would hold and twist. Frustration kicked in and Tszyu did what he had to do, however I never saw Tszyu do not even 1% of what Hatton did with him and Tszyu got warned and got a point deducted, Hatton was getting cheered on by the ref.

You must be stupid mentioning Tszyu hit him with "TWO low blows" but completely ignore Hatton's endless headbutts, shoving, lowblows, elbows, rabbit punches, punches to the back of the head which were ALL intentional.

 

My post was directed to that stupid poster, nothing general there.:good

 

So Hatton won because he was a bit too rough and tough for Tszyu to handle?

Big deal, this is boxing, get over it ladies :|

Btw, if you want to go with the idea that Hatton should have been DSQ against Tszyu, then you better man up and admit that Holyfield was using just as dubous tactics against Tyson in their first fight. I don't see anyone crying foul about that....