Roach: Cotto @ 140 & Mosley @ 142 or no fights "I have to protect my fighter"

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Now Pacquiao is cherry picking?, come on man you can't be serious. :patsch

    Roach makes sense, they DON'T want the fights above 140, they said that before and he's just repeating for people that obviously forgot. Pacquiao doesn't even belong at 140, let alone go back to 147. It's 140 or nothing else, they're not telling people something they don't know and this isn't cherry picking in any way. If Cotto and Mosley want it then move down, if not then there are others who will take it, Pac doesn't need them.
     
  2. Scar

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    That's a load of crap man. DLH wanted the fight and they told him what they plan to do to make it, Pacquiao was moving up from 135 to 147 for this fight, they sure as hell won't go to 154 as it would be foolish.

    Just like DLH, Mosley and Cotto are the ones calling him out, if they want the fight then move down for it, same applies to Mayweather. Roach isn't saying anything new, he already said publicly more than 10 times that their plan is to stay at 140 and dominate there, there are zero plans to move up in weight AGAIN. The guys that called him out know that so the fans shouldn't start acting surprised. It's Cotto and Mosley who are calling him out, not the other way around.
     
  3. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Mosley is the one calling out Pac on Sportscenter. He's the one who declared after defeating Margo that he was eyeing the Pac-Hatton winner; meanwhile, a rematch against Cotto was offered to him in which he declined. He's the one that should either agree to Team Pac's terms or shut up. And if your unsatisfied with catchweights then send word to Shane that he should move down to 140. :deal
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But yet some people thought and said that he should be fighting the Kilts. Its no different here. And No I dont believe that Manny controls the money, at least the PPV number tell us that they is Floyd. Cotto and Mosley would make the same if not more fighting Floyd then they would fighting Pac. THAT IS WHAT THE NUMBERS TELL US
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To tell the truth Its roach and arum that is doing all the calling out. Mosley and Cotto are responding to it all. Arum is a smart man and he knows that he can play this game and people have bought it in the past, but I think doing it with Cotto and Mosley is dangerous. People will believe anything about Floyd which is the reason that some ass clown made a thread about Floyd pricing himself out of a fight were he is asking for 60% but saying that Pac is justified in asking for 65%. As I said in the post before the numbers tell us that Floyd is a bigger PPV draw. I know its hard for fans to admitt it but its true.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he knew from the oscar-floyd fight that pac can beat oscar. oscar just went down a mere 3 pounds from his last fight while pac moved up 12 pounds.
     
  7. yyyy1313

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    She's hot, who is she?
     
  8. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    They won't listen, they forget oscar just dropped 3 pounds to go to 147.
    His last fight was a catchweight at 150.
    On the other hand Pac was coming from 135 to 147, which is alot.

    Even if it was a 147 version of Oscar that Floyd beat, Pac would have still beat that ass.
     
  9. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The DLH that FLoyd beat was also past his prime, except he was not weightdrained!
     
  10. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    I know, I'm saying that if it was the 2007 version of Oscar fighting at 147, he would still lose to Pac.
     
  11. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So he would rather have his fighters fight zombies and still claim titles and p4p status than fighting them at their current best.

    Shallow *******.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I know a fighter that could get down to 142-144 & his name is Floyd Mayweather.... lets cut all the BS & get the 2 top guys in the sport in the same ring before tragically it never happens.
     
  13. masterwolfm

    masterwolfm New Member Full Member

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    Pac has had had one fight at 140. Just a couple of years ago he was at 130! HE started at 106 pounds. there has to be a limit to how far a fighter can move up and still be effective. Mosley has been at 147 and even at 154! Pac would be at a b ig disadvantage if he fought cotto or mosley aty 147. It is a no lose situation though! If he beat mosley or cotto at 147 he would the man!(top 5 all time great). However I don't blame roach for not wanting pac to go back to 147.I think 144 would be a fair catchweight.
     
  14. masterwolfm

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    Honestly if mosley or cotto don't feel like they cant make the catchweight and be competetive then they shouldn't take the fight!
     
  15. masterwolfm

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    Y come a guy that has had one fight at 135, one fight at 140 and one fight at 147 be called a cherrypicker, while mayweather had been at 147 for years and held the linear title at 147, but he didn't fight one A fighter at 147!