How meaningful would a Pavlik victory over Floyd be?

You ignore all of mine and then ask yours....

the fight is being reported as being at 147 now :nut

 

atsch Floyd can do know wrong in your eyes

 

Shitboo,
Its two weight divisions. Its thirteen pounds.
JMM is being asked to move up twelve pounds now. Plus considering that it is at a lower weight, percentage wise increasing from 135 to 147 is essentially the same at 147 to 160.

 

Cutting ten pounds is not going to be a huge problem? Cutting ten ounces can be a huge problem when you are trying to make weight under the gun.

ha ha that **** in pink is classic

Well, I suppose Marquez could weigh in and fight at 140 against a PBF who will now fight possibly around 152 or so. They could have met at 141 which would have been each man sacrificing six pounds to make the fight. Even at 141 it may be a bigger stretch for JMM than it is for Mayweather unless his body has changed significantly which is possible.

Why do you keep ingnoring the importance of weigh ins? Why do you think so many fights are called off because one fighter could not make weight? Again, fighting a guy in Mayweather who will utilize every ounce of 147 pounds and show up even heavier and stronger is not the same thing as fighting a guy who has to cut down to 135 and then hydrates back up to 143 or so.

As a bettor I can't afford to ignore anything. You, as an emotionally based partisan poster can afford to make idiotic posts because your pocket book isn't involved. Mayweather is not a big welter I already acknowledged this but your reading comprehension skills are poor. However we know that Floyd can fight well vs second tier fighters at 140 and 147 and do good enough to at least get a split decision over an older DLH at 154. Could JMM beat Judah at welter? Or Baldo? JMM is fighting two fights here, Floyd and a twelve pound move in weight. Saying JMM asked for therefore the weight is fine is ******ed.

How the hell is JMM five pounds from 147 or 144? You like to use fightnight weights when its convenient and contracted weights when its convenient. You are saying 141 (fightnight weight of JMM) is only a few pounds from 144 (contracted weight for the fight but now its possibly 147) however, the fight night weight of FMJ could very well be in the one fifties and AGAIN you fail to acknowledge that every fighter JMM has faced has had to make weight the day before at most at 135 and that Floyd gets to come in a rock solid 147 pounds, yes he is a small welter but a rock solid Floyd at 147 is a massive advantage against career featherweight JMM who I must repeat just recently hit lightweight a weight already a stretch for him, and a weight that its misleading to use, you are still using JMM's fight night weights at 135 when we know he was bulked up at 135.

Pac had to weight in at 130 pounds. Floyd will weight in at 147 and my guess is that after the layoff we will see him come in around 153. You misread my posts as always. Floyd will be weighing in TWELVE pounds heavier than any man JMM has ever faced. Pac had to weigh in SEVENTEEN pounds below what Floyd will weigh in at when he faces JMM. Pac was weight drained in this fight and even at 135 Roach says he is drained.

Yeah ok and JuanMa is bigger than Pac, Gamboa ain't smaller, and Linares ain't either, how about Luevano he aint smaller, hell there are a ton of guys at 135 and 130, 126 and even 122 that are bigger than Pac. Does that mean we praise Pac if he forces them to fight him at 140? Should Pac go fight Raul Marquez at 140? Are you going to sing his praises? These smaller guys have had success against other smaller weighing men we don't know how they will do moving up, some will do well others won't, but a 36 year old JMM is giving a huge advantage to Floyd at 144 let alone 147 since he was already stretched to the limit, clearly, at lightweight.

Pac had to cut down to 130 to make weight. Casa and J Diaz 135. Most of JMM's opponents 126. JMM is already bulked up at 135 even if his fightnight weight is 141, to have him weigh in at 147 and bulk too what? 152 to keep up with Mayweather or to just let Mayweather outweigh him with what will be non rehyrdated weight, but mostly just natural weight of 147 is to give up a huge advantage.

Again, for the millionth time, bulking up after a weigh in is not the same thing as not having to cut weight at all. Every pound higher the fight is another pound Floyd doesn't have to cut and another pound JMM has to either surrender or bulk up to. 144 let alone 147 is very significant. All sensible posters agree.

Klitschko has a big advantage due to his size there is no question. Haye has some advantages but size is not one of them. Wlad has this advantage over all the smaller heavies. If Haye wants to fight in that division where there is no weight limit than he will have to face many possibly huge fighters like Dimetrenko and Valuev. Nobody expected JMM to fight at 147 it is absurd.

And you base your entire argument on an unconfirmed fight night report of JMM, I am not surpised.

I say it is significant. I did not say it necessarily makes the whole fight. It may. You add what I pinked to exaggerate what I say so you can shoot it down.

Pac had to make 130 and it suffered to do it. Mayweather is going to weigh in seventeen pounds north of that.

Seventeen
****ing
pounds

And you act like its the same thing.

Well he is already bulked at 135 and if he doesn't bulk up considerably more he is going to be surrendering a massive amount of weight in there. So he has to get bigger and slower and stronger or be smaller and weaker. either way Mayweather gets an advantage.

He bragged about weighin in the 180's to DLH on fightnight. He was pretty big vs Vargas too.

Ha ha. I don't have or need or want a bias. I make money and consistently pick winners over many years worth of betting, you make a mess in your pants thinking of Floyd. Why would I care about other fights in this thread? Why do you change the subject dummeze? How come you can't undestand or acknowledge 75% of my posts? I only care about the advantage he has in weight and size because that is what the thread is about dumbass.

 

Oh definitely. I'll take an obvious rapid post spelling error over your lack of understanding of the meaning of simple words.