Corrie Sanders would beat Joe Louis

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Sanders might have had a stroke of luck early like some of Louis's other opponents and scored a flash knockdown. But, after that its all Louis.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Sanders can KO Louis in 3 imagine what Hasim Rahman and Nate Tubbs do to him
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Shhhhh! Such talk in an open forum setting is blasphemy among serious fight fans and historians.

    I would not say Sanders would beat Louis, but he most certainly could. Sanders would be the biggest, strongest, and fastest puncher he ever faced. I would not say hardest hitting. Baer gets that distinction, but Baer couldn't box, had poor effort more often than not, and started slow more often than not.

    Galento was one more solid blow away from pulling off the upset. Galento was a short, fat, poor boxer who outside of having power had little else to brag about. If he could easily land, so could lots of guys.

    Louis did not face many skilled punchers, and when he did he tended to struggle or lose. Since Louis was merely average in the footwork and defense department, the south paw style might expose these flaws even more than fighters with multiple losses did.
     
  4. RonnieHornschuh

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    Sanders could have done a Wlad on Louis, I'm not saying he would surely, but the chance is there. If Schmeling could KO Lewis, then Sanders shouldn't be written off.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    This is a valid post. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but I can see a fair amount of reasonable logic in it. Sanders could have been a potential spoiler for a lot of great champions. He was a fast starter with an awkward style, good handspeed, decent size and power. We've seen worse men pull off huge upsets. I also agree that he was in many ways, better than some of the crude punchers that fought Louis like Max Baer, Buddy Baer, Tony Galento, etc.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    That was Rhaman at his best, and the same man who KO'd Lennox Lewis.

    Styles make fights and punchers can end them quickly. To say Sanders has no chance here would imply Louis had a top level chin, footwork, and defense, which he most certainly did not.

    He grant, you are one of the more level headed posters here. I have seen Louis on film plenty and in truth he struggles to out box vs smaller, less powerful fighters such as Farr, Godoy, Pastor, and Conn. I happen to think Sanders is a better heavyweight than these three. Schmleing owned Louis the first time, and Walcott was robbed once, and in the lead before he got cute and caught in the second fight. Louis was dropped by fighters who would be journeyman today in Galento and Braddock.

    The best skilled punchers Louis fought were Schmeling, and Walcott. While calling Walcott a big puncher might be a stretch, both men floored Louis multiple times, and if the score cards were fair Louis would be 2-2 vs them. So Sanders who had a superior height, reach, power and speed advantage in almsot all cases in comparison to the men who either out boxed or floored Louis would have a chance too.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Nate cought him with a huge shot. No excuses. He was out..

    You have to admit though, Corrie looked pretty good up to that point. He was boxing, using angles, jabbing with the right, and circling Tubbs-making him chase after him. Sanders was a pretty good boxer actually.
     
  9. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This isn't about legacy, where Louis towers miles above Sanders, but purely H2H. Louis WAS knocked down by Braddock, a natural LHW. He WAS KO'd by Schmeling, who would be a small cruiser today. Give Sanders the 6 ounce gloves of the 1930's and he is an absolutely menacing puncher. Sure, Sanders is an underachiever career - wise, but on his best night, against a fighter with a supect chin, he would have a very good chance.
     
  10. punchy

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    Like Bob Crane from Hogans heroes
     
  11. mcvey

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    Sanders might be the fastest puncher Louis faced ,but he would not be the biggest or strongest ,Buddy Baer was 2 inches taller and around 20 lbs heavier than prime Sanders,Sanders has 3 things going for him here.He has quick hands, he can punch with his left ,and more importantly he is a south paw and Louis NEVER faced one , so there is an outside chance he might confuse Louis .
    The problem with Sanders is, his chin was not too sound and he kept his head erect ,up in the air like a lantern, ala Gerry Cooney, inviting a fast puncher like Louis to land on him. which sooner or later he would do,imo.

    Its all very well saying if Galento could easily land ,so could lots of guys ,well Louis was kod twice ,once when he was overconfident and didnt train as he should ,and once at the very end of his career.Thats 2 ko defeats in 70 fights ,both times to men who held the title.
    If it was that easy to land on Louis why wasnt he kod more?
     
  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    holding your head in the air is always a good idea.:lol:ie jack bodell (southpaw) against jerry quarry,or brian london V quarry.
    they both walked towards quarry with chins up and ended up couchant
     
  13. GPater11093

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    woah a martian posting on ESB

    we are privilged to have you on here this is a great honour

    Louis would KO sanders quickly KO3
     
  14. mcvey

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    " Smaller less powerful fighters"? Farr was a half inch shorter than Louis,and at 204 1/4lb 7 1/4 lbs the heavier man .
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    This is a very good point, especially considering that Louis was dropped by left hooks on a number of times during his career, and by men who were not south paws, nor had Sander's size, power or handspeed.

    Corrie's chin isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Vitali, Rahman and Tubbs were not feather fisted heavyweights and at least two of those men fought Sanders under rather unfavorable circumstances.